------------------------------- Wed Nov 16 05:42:22 PM EST 2022 ------------------------------- Transcript of Chat box from BLU meeting, Wed, Nov 16, 2022 Meeting held online via Jitsi Meet In attendance (12 total): Speaker(s): * Federico Lucifredi BLU officers: * John Abreau * Jerry Feldman * Bill Ricker Attendees (named): * Ben Scott * Brendan Kidwell (NYC) * Arnold Petersen * Ed Piecewicz * Robert Luoma * Shankar Viswanathan Attendees (anonymous): * Curt * Curt R ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Abreau John Abreau says:we can't hear you, Federico Private message to Federico Lucifredi 18:32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Federico Lucifredi Federico Lucifredi says:ack 18:32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:if i have to dress the cables on the desk repeatedly, is that redress ? Bill Ricker says:Federico, your MUTE icon was set 18:36 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:I'm hearing an echo from Jerry. Ed Piecewicz says:Federico's audio is all garbled. 18:38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Abreau John Abreau says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename) 18:49 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:Got to shut down my fam 😄 18:58 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:I can hear you 19:01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:We hear YOU Jerry, can you hear US ? 19:01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:I can hear Jerry, 19:01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Federico' Ed Piecewicz says:Federico's screen is blank 19:11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:TEST PM Private message to John Abreau 19:03 John Abreau John Abreau says:Got your private message, but wasn't alerted to it, other than the color in the chat box. Private message to Bill Ricker 19:04 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I used a couple of those PS/2 portables after their prime -- my family acquired them cheap somewhere Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:nice systems 19:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:Version 7, now that's a _real_ Unix. 😄 19:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:Ed I can see Federico's scren. your problem has happened to me in the past Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:restart your browser? Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:that's a gass plasma screen, not LCD 19:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:the original (hot!!) flat screen 19:13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Restarted browser, still seeing a blank screen for him. 19:15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:Federico's screen looks fine to me 19:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I think when it failed for me, it had something to do with webrtc failing 19:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:for early LCD and NCR, i offer NCR System 3125. PenWindows. https://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/ncr_3125/ 19:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:jitsi is very quiet when streams in the meeting fail. no indication that it failed 19:17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:dont forget about the Jumpers 19:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Using Firefox, can now see screen but no audio. 19:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:firefox has been a pain lately with audio 19:21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:This is the new version (107) on Debian. 19:22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:serial mouse 19:23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Have audio now. 19:23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:irq problems 19:26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says: https://github.com/schlae/snark-barker 19:28 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:Do you have the URL of this Microsoft site that has the archives of their abandoned products? 19:33 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I remember installing Windows 95 from a stack of floppies. a large stack. It was also delivered on one CD-ROM 19:33 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:no y2k support. lol Curt R says:temp drv 19:35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:DOSKEY 😃 19:38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:👍 Curt R says:should have an fcc sicker 19:58 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:Zip was closer to floppy. Jaz was the hard disk. 20:08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:the click of death 20:09 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:lets go back to punched paper tape 20:10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:tip: if you bulk erase a Zip disk with an electromagnet made for that purpose (tapes, floppies), the zip disk will die. can't be reformatted 20:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:you can erase a ppt with a match 20:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:hey, i resemble that remark about TSR programs 20:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:QEMM! 😃 Ben Scott says:Anyone else getting audio glitches? 20:25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Yes. his audio is breaking up 20:25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:Yes 20:25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:Type 47! 20:37 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curt R Curt R says:goto go 20:37 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:never use an original commodore power supply. they fail into evil mode. buy a new built-one Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:(old power supply could destroy a commodore mainboard) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:how much BASIC? -- no graphics or sound commands. Commodore re-used their one-time license for BASIC they got form Bill Gates for their PET computer. 21:06 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:Commodore used a character set known as "PETSCII", but most BBSes assumed the IBM-PC character set. I'm guessing that's what that's about. 21:08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:(IBM-PCs had multiple "character pages" for locales and applications, there was a default-ish one for US English which is probably what was presumed on BBSs hereabouts) 21:10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:Yeah, the original IBM-PC's character set was retroactively designated Code Page 437. 21:11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:there's actually two petscii codepages: 1 has alphabet and a lot of graphics drawing codepoints in the first 7-bits. the other has uppercase and lowercase and fewer graphics codepoints in 7-bits. both have bit 8 as "color invert the glyph" Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:software on the c64 and vic-20 could redefine all 256 characters from a RAM buffer if they chose to 21:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:A friend used this in Church because they lost their organist. Jerry Feldman says:Atary Stacy 21:22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:that reminds me of when the pastor at my catholic school told me the bells in the bell tower were … an audio CD and a set of horn loudspeakers 21:23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker Bill Ricker says:OS in ROM prevents malware getting into the OS i guess. But getting security patches is hard 21:24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:Atari St OS == TOS == Tramiel OS 21:25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:many early portable MS-DOS machines had the OS in ROM. I remember this was true for an MS-DOS 3.3 Toshiba laptop with half-height B&W LCD. and for the HP 100LX and 200LX "palmtop" MS-DOS computers 21:26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman Jerry Feldman says:We had to deal with a couple of them at Linux Installfests 21:26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Abreau John Abreau says:3d print the cover? 21:29 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Scott Ben Scott says:👏 22:02 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz Ed Piecewicz says:Great meeting! Thank you. 👏 22:02 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Abreau John Abreau says:👏 22:02 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- meeting ended at 10:07 pm