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1) Boston's Google video 2) Moving beyond TCP

Here's a direct link to that Facebook Page:

RINA certainly seems interesting-- is there a site with more info?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 16:31, Stephen Ronan <sronan-VmQCmMdMyN0AvxtiuMwx3w at> wrote:
> Couple interesting items that crossed my desk this p.m.
> 1) The video Boston submitted as part of its pitch to get Google
> to come deploy a fiber network in Boston.
> Nice!
> There is a Bring Google to Boston Facebook page that can readily
> be found viat the Facebook search box.
> 2) Also this, which Fred Goldstein (who lives in Newton) said
> could be freely passed on... It's a little (okay, a lot) beyond
> my geek pay grade but I trust Fred's judgment
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:05:33 -0400
> From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein-5XRnEhzT6fhXrIkS9f7CXA at>
> Subject: Moving beyond TCP/IP
> In this past week's discussions, and in some earlier threads, I
> have referred to an alternative protocol stack that is currently
> under development as a long-term replacement for IP. ?One of the
> reasons I suggest we need common carriage below the IP layer is
> to make room for it, rather than allow the vertically-integrated
> ISPs to lock users in to IP. ?This has obvious policy
> implications.
> RINA (Recursive InterNetwork Architecture) addresses the major
> areas where today's Internet is weakest. These include
> scalability, security, multihoming, multicasting, and mobiliity.
> It also offers improved streaming capabilities and a technical
> solution for ensuring the benefits of "neutrality" without the
> many problems of other proposals. ?By using the same basic layer
> mechanism recursively, rather than have a fixed stack with
> purpose-built protocols at each layer, it is fundamentally simple
> yet very powerful. RINA can even coexist with IPv4 networks more
> easily than IPv6, making its adoption more practical. An "All-IP
> Network" would thus be a step in the wrong direction.
> RINA was developed by John Day based upon the ideas in his book
> Patterns in Network Architecture: A Return to Fundamentals.
> (Hence the underlying concept is also called PNA.) ?It is not a
> product yet, but it's in the works. ?We've finally completed a
> rather long (18 pages) introductory article, explaining both the
> motivations (why TCP/IP has run out of steam) and the solution.
> Those who are interested can now read it here:
> BTW, the Pouzin Society (the organization behind RINA) is meeting
> at FutureNet
> in Boston next month.
> ?--
> ?Fred Goldstein ? ?k1io ? fgoldstein "at"
> ?ionary Consulting ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ?+1 617 795 2701
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