[Discuss] Verizon phasing out copper

[mark at buttery.org (Shirley Márquez Dúlcey)]

Nobody said anything about them using labor to dismantle the copper. Mostly
they're just turning it off, or letting it degrade to the point where they
can't provide adequate service with it. I'm a victim of the latter here in
Dorchester; we had DSL for a while but it would go out every time we had a
serious rainstorm and Verizon simply wouldn't fix it. They would send out
technicians after the weather cleared, find no problem, and go home, but
would never send a tech DURING the bad conditions or simply concede there
was a problem and run a new pair.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Shirley M?rquez D?lcey <mark at buttery.org>wrote:

> Nobody said anything about them using labor to dismantle the copper.
> Mostly they're just turning it off, or letting it degrade to the point
> where they can't provide adequate service with it. I'm a victim of the
> latter here in Dorchester; we had DSL for a while but it would go out every
> time we had a serious rainstorm and Verizon simply wouldn't fix it. They
> would send out technicians after the weather cleared, find no problem, and
> go home, but would never send a tech DURING the bad conditions or simply
> concede there was a problem and run a new pair.
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Richard Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 5/1/2013 11:17 AM, Jack Coats wrote:
>> > Basic anti-competitive action using FUD.  Sounds like the computing
>> > industry in the last 30 years.
>>
>> Except that, as I noted earlier, there is no competition at all in many
>> of the neighborhoods where VZ is disconnecting that copper. Like my
>> neighborhood. Prior to the FiOS deployment I could get telephone only
>> from Verizon and whatever Comcast offered. That was it. No DSL, no
>> broadband competition. I'm too far from the CO. This isn't a rural
>> neighborhood Middle of Nowhere, Maine. This is suburban Natick, MA. And
>> I couldn't get DSL from anyone.
>>
>> Holler about VZ's FUD if you want, but be aware that your cries are
>> themselves FUD.
>>
>> --
>> Rich P.
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