Redhat 7.x and 8.x sunset

Scott Ehrlich scott at ehrlichtronics.com
Thu Dec 25 11:02:01 EST 2003


As "broken" or "old" as Debian appears, I have found their complete
installation process and update process easiest of all the distros
mentioned here.  I actively use Debian at home and at work.

I spent the last few nights playing with most install processes - RH9, the
Net/Open/FreeBSD series, Slackware (still not ftp/http installable), and
still find Debian the easiest.

After the install is done, I do like apt-get.  I've had problems with rpm
in the past, and with all the rumblings of RH hard EOLing RH9, I think,
for me, Debian remains the winner.

Just my $1.

Scott

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Bob George wrote:

> David Kramer <david at thekramers.net> wrote:
> > [...] and Debian stuck in years-old technology, leaves me no
> > good options.
>
> Agreed that Debian STABLE is years-old. TESTING is much more current, and
> generally "near release". I realize that 'testing' might cause concern, but
> after dealing with RH years ago, I can say I've had far fewer problems with
> Debian!
>
> I've tried (over the years):
>
> * Storm (debian) now defunct.
> * RH5.2-9 in various increments.
> * SuSE 8.0
> * Fedora (close for desktop! but not quite. Quite impressed though.)
> * Others I can't think of right now.
>
> I've been happiest with Debian not majorly breaking things between major
> updates... at least the MAJOR things. That said reading the docs between
> updates is still a good thing.
>
> > [...]
> > - I am not the typical home user or the typical corporate user.  I
> > run a HELL of a lot of stuff on my box.  On the other hand, I do not
> > make one attempg to get something working then give up; I'm very
> > persistent.  Weight my opinion as you see fit based on that.
>
> Did you post previously what it is you're trying to do? I'm curious where the
> tradeoff between "current" and "stable" lies. I've been similarly dis-satisfied
> with various distributions over the years, but recently have found a
> satisfactory blend (based on the dropping prices of hardware, and my tendency
> to build "frankenboxen" out of parts):
>
> I use Debian for my server-side stuff (email, etc.) but also consider myself a
> power-user/hobbyist for the most part. I find Debian rather bland for the
> desktop (esp. for family members) but I personally love it on the server-end,
> and have had few problems over the last several years with updates, even
> between major revs.
>
> The latest solution I'm trying is keeping a separate box for Debian doing the
> "real" work (email, iptables/firewall, etc.) and configuring separate boxes
> with more current hardware as 'user' machines with MDK9.2. Using NFS/NIS, the
> user data is all on the (backed up) server, so I can more-or-less wipe and
> reload the desktops without too many worries if/when I want something besides
> MDK.
>
> So I've leaned towards a nice, solid Debian solution for server tasks, and a
> featureful MDK solution for end-user tasks. I'm happy enough with MDK that I'll
> probably join the club to give them some financial support as well, in the
> hopes they stick around for a few more years.
>
> - Bob
>
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