Extra files found after a copy from Windows

Jeff Kinz jkinz at kinz.org
Sat Jan 21 11:40:56 EST 2006


On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:35:54AM -0500, Bill Horne wrote:
> Jeff Kinz wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:39:43AM -0500, Bill Horne wrote:
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users        168k Dec 28 04:44 Scan1.jpg
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users        6.3k Dec 28 04:44 Scan1.jpg:Q30lsldxJoudresxAaaqpcawXc:$DATA
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users           0 Dec 28 04:44 Scan1.jpg:{4c8cc155-6c1e-11d1-8e41-00c04fb9386d}:$DATA
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users        615k Dec 28 05:05 Scan10.jpg
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users        6.0k Dec 28 05:05 Scan10.jpg:Q30lsldxJoudresxAaaqpcawXc:$DATA
> >>-rwxrw-r--    1 henry    users           0 Dec 28 05:05 Scan10.jpg:{4c8cc155-6c1e-11d1-8e41-00c04fb9386d}:$DATA
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Would need more info on the tools used to look at the files and what Win
> >OS was used.
> >
> >It possible that the "icons" that were cut and pasted by a windows
> >explorer tool automatically include all three files. But I've never
> >heard of that before.
> >
> >Some GUI viewer tools on Linux and Win automatically create thumbnails
> >the first time you open the file.
> >
> >its possible that whatever version of Windows your son is running has a
> >non-default action set up for handling jpg's.
> >
> >But without more info all of the above is just speculation.
> >
> >Can you SMB mount the Win file system to your Linux system and do an
> >"ls -lags " on the directory?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Jeff,
> 
> He's using a generic whitebox, running windows 2000 pro, with all 
> patches and sp4. I'm running Samba 2.2.3a-14.1.
> 
> Here's the other information:
> 
> billhorne:/mnt# smbmount //Family/ScoutPhotos smb -o 
> username=bill,password=removed,uid=root,gid=users,workgroup=Horne
> 
> billhorne:/mnt# cd smb
> 
> billhorne:/mnt/smb# ls -lags
> 
> total 57315
>    4 drwxr-xr-x    1 root     users        4096 Dec 29 20:36 .
>    4 drwxr-xr-x    9 root     root         4096 Jan 21 09:12 ..
>  169 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      172343 Dec 28 04:44 Scan1.jpg
>  616 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      629906 Dec 28 05:05 Scan10.jpg
>  212 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      216538 Dec 29 11:48 Scan100.jpg
>  205 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      208988 Dec 29 11:50 Scan101.jpg
>  250 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      255321 Dec 29 11:54 Scan102.jpg
>  231 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      235756 Dec 29 11:55 Scan103.jpg
>  226 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      230825 Dec 29 11:57 Scan104.jpg
>  173 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      177021 Dec 29 11:58 Scan105.jpg

Bill, the time fields listed on these files appear to indicate that
these files were created on the windows system all together, in order by
their in-name-number.  Interestingly, the "extra files" appear to have
timestamps that indicate they were also possibly created at the same time 
as their respectively numbered progenitor files.

Is it possible that the tools used to download these images from the
camera created these files?

In the file view on windows do you have all your options set so the
windows doesn't have anything hidden from the file view?  For example, 
set the folder view options to not hide anything and to display all
extensions and all other information.

Then view the folder and see of you can see the extra files.

One last possibility is that the WIN file system itself is doing
funny things to generate these extra files when the progenitor files get
copied, but thats just more speculation.


>  615 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      629722 Dec 28 05:06 Scan11.jpg
>  686 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      702073 Dec 28 05:10 Scan12.jpg
>  526 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      538274 Dec 28 05:14 Scan13.jpg
>  587 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      600186 Dec 28 05:17 Scan14.jpg
>  629 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      643635 Dec 28 05:20 Scan15.jpg
>  700 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      716680 Dec 28 05:21 Scan16.jpg
>  567 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      579907 Dec 28 05:24 Scan17.jpg
>  685 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      701363 Dec 28 05:26 Scan18.jpg
>  563 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      576166 Dec 28 05:28 Scan19.jpg
>  119 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     users      121814 Dec 28 04:46 Scan2.jpg

-- 
Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.
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