[Discuss] Fighting UEFI

Mark Woodward markw at mohawksoft.com
Sat Jul 28 14:04:59 EDT 2012


On 07/28/2012 01:59 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> To be fair, it isn't UEFI per se that is the problem, it is Secure
> Boot.  My current laptop works just fine in UEFI mode and doesn't
> support Secure Boot.  Most current servers also support UEFI without
> Secure Boot.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
Yes, fair enough, but the point still stands. If manufacturers create a 
product that precludes our rights as owners of it, we need to fight 
back. Merely boycotting isn't enough, we have to take a bite out of 
there profits. If we boycott, our numbers don't amount to much and the 
"loss" would be negligible. If we make increase their costs and create 
the perception that a larger segment of customers find this 
unacceptable, they will question their policies. Nothing makes a point 
better than the bottom line.

>
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:59:20PM -0400, Mark Woodward wrote:
>> As you may or may not know, UEFI is a new boot loader that will make
>> a common PC more like a game console when it comes to freedom of
>> choice.
>>
>> Hardware has very thin margins, if enough people buy UEFI, open it,
>> and try to install Ubuntu, and fail, and return it. It will increase
>> their cost. t will not be cost effective for them to sell a product
>> that locks out the proper rights of ownership.
>>
>> When UEFI comes out, *everyone* buy one, make sure you open all the
>> books and CDs and wires, break all the "new seals" and return it and
>> say that the UEFI boot loader makes it unacceptable. The store will
>> send it back. It will cost the companies trying to push this on the
>> consumers. They will get the message if their gross "cost of goods"
>> goes up because of returns from unsatisfied customers. Which, of
>> course, we will be.
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