[Discuss] Class action against "Secure Boot"

Richard Pieri richard.pieri at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 19:26:28 EDT 2012


On 6/27/2012 7:24 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> IMHO, tablets are computers. However, when you look at mobile phones,
> Smartphones are primarily tablet devices with communications features in
> contrast many cell phones have chips and software in them, but they are
> phones with computers. Cars have had computers in them for many years,

They have.  In fact there are many computers in a modern automobile. 
This does not make your car a computer.  It's a car.

You'll find a plethora of 6502-family processors in aerospace from the 
1970s and 1980s.  The computers aboard the Space Shuttle use mil-spec 
6502 processors.  And this is my point.  You look at iPad or Eee 
Transformer and see the computers inside them.  You look at the physical 
similarities to notebook computers and think "they're computers". 
They're not, no more than the Columbia STS was an Apple ][+.

Basic cell phones are shells around baseband processors.  Look up that 
term.  The difference between a "dumb" phone and a smart phone is that 
the smart phone also has a second embedded computer to run user 
applications.  Smart or dumb, tablet or telephone, they're all the same 
thing: communications devices with computers embedded in them.

Which takes me back to the start of this.  If you want a computer then 
buy a computer.  Don't buy a Ferrari and expect to be able to run Diablo 
3 on it.  And don't complain to Ferrari when you can't.  It's not their 
mistake.

I think I'm finished with this.  I've repeatedly made my point.  You 
want to tilt at windmills, that's your prerogative.

-- 
Rich P.




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