[Discuss] Verizon phasing out copper

Jerry Feldman gaf at blu.org
Wed May 8 11:02:47 EDT 2013


On 05/08/2013 10:50 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> Matthew Gillen wrote:
>> Just because they're not in business now doesn't mean the idea of open
>> access is doomed to failure.
> To the contrary, I maintain that since none of the big CLECs had any
> long-term success with it demonstrates that the model -- running your
> business on your direct competitor's infrastructure -- is doomed to fail.
>
>
>> Likewise the successful CLECs like speakeasy were in dense population
>> centers, which is exactly where Vz wanted to target first with their
>> FiOS rollout.  I would argue that the gross inferiority of DSL service
>> compared to FiOS had more to do with their extinction than a doomed
>> business model.
> Verizon started deploying FiOS in 2005. The DSL CLEC industry collapsed
> in 2001 as an adjunct to the dot-com bust. My conclusion is that FiOS
> had nothing to do with the CLEC industry collapse.
>
>>   - you may not refuse service to someone who is willing and able to pay
>> in that geographic area
> This is what I wrote. Common carriers provide service to everyone
> equally. FiOS does not do this. FiOS can't do this. It's a cable TV service.
>
And I recall Earthlink was using Comcast's infrastructure.One issue here 
is when there is a problem who do you call. Let's assume that the 
carrier is providing fibre to your building. An ISP is providing 
Internet service to you. The internal building wiring is up to building 
management, and your phone is voip from some other carrier. The issue 
always gets very muddy when you have to deal with multiple contacts for 
a single problem.

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