[Discuss] Debian officially forked over systemd

Martin Owens doctormo at gmail.com
Sat Nov 29 21:50:52 EST 2014


On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 00:52 +0000, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> > The arguments about preventing downtime are bunk, unless somebody
> > shows that systemd causes downtime.  Which it doesn't.
> 
> There's a reason it's difficult to come up with a concrete argument
> against systemd.

YALS - Yet Another Lennart System

I have no issue with systemd, just like I had no issue with upstart. But
the anti-upstart people really pissed me off, because the argument
always went: "It's Ubuntu and thus objectionable because of other stuff
Canonical have done"

While of course that argument never seemed to be applicable to systemd:
"It's Lennart and thus objectionable because of other stuff (pulse) he's
done"

If we were playing reputation fairly, systemd would have been rejected.
And it feels like the community plays favorites in a corrupt way. Not
really looking at the merits of systems reasonably but playing vendetta
and fait accompli politics.

Systemd is what we're all going to use regardless. But don't ask me to
be happy about it.

Martin Owens




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