[Discuss] live streaming needs flash?

Shirley Márquez Dúlcey mark at buttery.org
Mon Jul 27 21:41:43 EDT 2015


Receiving video is pretty much the same whether or not the source is
live. HTML5 can handle it.

I thought the original question was about ORIGINATING a live stream.
That is what is difficult to do in HTML5. And since originating a
stream requires a plugin, some sites may also still be set up to
require a plugin for playback; UStream is a good example, though their
beta browser viewer may support HTML5 streaming.

YouTube live events do not require a plugin to watch; they use HTML5
streaming if available. And there is an option to use a Google Hangout
as the stream source, and I believe that also does not require a
plugin if you stream from Chrome. Otherwise you need Flash to source a
live stream.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Eric Chadbourne
<eric.chadbourne at icloud.com> wrote:
> Fascinating.  I'll read up on the camera API in HTML5.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Chadbourne
> Nonprofit-CRM.org
>
>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey <mark at buttery.org> wrote:
>>
>> Although there has been a camera API in HTML5 since at least 2012,
>> browser support has lagged; even now, developers can't count on it
>> being available, and what support does exist is inconsistent. Flash is
>> the most widely installed plugin so that is what developers used. It
>> can also be done with Java or Silverlight but fewer users have those.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Eric Chadbourne
>> <eric.chadbourne at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> I've heard some smart folks say flash is needed for live streaming and nothing else is nearly as good.  I've heard them say there is no good open source option.  If this is true, why?  Surely there's no magic sauce in there that couldn't be replicated, or even done better.  Is it more of a matter of plugin saturation?  Just curious.
>>>
>>> Eric Chadbourne
>>> - The one who uses no flash or java plugins, ever.
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