[Discuss] node.js and npm on Debian?

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com
Tue Feb 13 11:50:39 EST 2018


On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:40:54 -0500
Dan Ritter <dsr at randomstring.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:23:09AM -0500, Kent Borg wrote:
> > For work I need to mess with node.js, unfortunately.
> > 
> > So I installed node.js:
> > 
> >   apt-get install nodejs
> > 
> > But I can't figure out how to install npm. When I search for
> > installation instructions they all seem to want me to pipe a curl
> > command into a sudo bash. Huh? That's scary as hell.
> > 
> > Why is there no .deb for npm? What is so dangerous or otherwise
> > skanky about npm that Debian 9 doesn't include it? Why should I let
> > it have root privileges? It isn't as if Javascript has a great
> > security reputation. And when they brag: "npm, is the largest
> > ecosystem of open source libraries in the world", that doesn't make
> > it sound very well vetted.
> > 
> > -kb, the Kent who might have to fire up a VM to try to isolate this
> > beast (if only VMs actually offered much isolation).  
> 
> It's ridiculously complex.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/npm
> 
> It might be in the next stable release. It's not in the current
> stable release. There are at least 30 more packages that have to 
> be built and tested before npm can come in.
> 
> Best practice here: install your own npm into a directory
> structure, be rigorous about how you call it, and distribute it
> using your existing config management.

Or switch to Void Linux, which installs npm with the nodejs package.

Debian isn't the distro it used to be.
 
SteveT

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