[Discuss] Running a mail server, or not

[Richard Pieri]

On 6/27/2018 1:58 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
> I don't see how we're in disagreement here. Naturally, if you send to
> a listserv like blu.org, there will be multiple hops (most likely but
> not guaranteed to be encrypted). But if you send directly from your
> email to mine, your system will connect to easydns (in Canada), which
> will attempt STARTTLS but not guarantee it; once it's queued at
> easydns, then it's encrypted as it gets to my private installation. I

Operative words: "but not guarantee it". This contradicts the assertion
that, "[t]here is no clear text SMTP on the wire." In reality there may
be clear text SMTP on the wire.

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Rich Pieri