[Discuss] Potential Subject for BLU Meeting

Tue Oct 26 16:25:51 EDT 2021

I created a wiki page with your outline on the BLU Wiki at
https://blu.qualitybox.us/blu/Virtualization

I could create an account for you and anyone who wants to edit. (See the
'Request Account' link next to 'login')

I'm happy to collaborate on this as much as possible.

Greg Rundlett

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 9:01 AM <markw at mohawksoft.com> wrote:

> Would anyone like to work on this with me?
>
> It would be cool to have some "real world" examples. I have a couple, but
> it would be cool if we could give some analysis for "containers" vs
> "Virtual Machines" not just the perspective of performance, but also
> usability, maintainability, etc.
>
>
>
>
> > I think it may be cool if there were a "deep dive" on virtualization
> *and*
> > containers.
> >
> > (1) Brief discussion about what virtualization is
> > (2) VMware, HyperV, KVM/QEMU, and XEN, what the basic differences are.
> > (3) Deep dive on KVM/QEMU
> >  (3a) VirtIO
> >  (3b) Networking NAT, Bridge
> >  (3c) Utilities
> > (4) Brief discussion about containers
> > (5) LXC, Docker, Podman, and Kubernetes
> > (6) Deep dive on Podman
> >  (6a) namespaces
> >  (6b) Networking
> >  (6c) Mapping directories into containers
> >  (6d) Utilities
> > (7) Examples
> >
> >
> > The above would be a master class and probably have to be a collaborative
> > work, but VMs and containers are the foundations of cloud computing and
> > covering this stuff would be very helpful to anyone trying to wade
> through
> > this stuff.
> >
> >> If we ignore containers, we've had the following meetings about VMs, I
> >> only
> >> looked back as far as 2009.
> >>
> >> April 2019 | Gnome Boxes
> >> July 2012 | The Virtual Desktop
> >> March 2012 | Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization Manager
> >> November 2009 | AMD-V: AMD64 virtualization extension
> >> October 2009 | Virtualization on the Desktop
> >> February 2009 | Virtualization Deep Dive Day
> >>
> >> A talk on the current status of VMs would be useful.
> >>
> >> I run a few VMs at home, but I don't run them on my desktop or laptop
> >> machines; I have a rackmount server I purchased on eBay with 32 GB of
> >> RAM
> >> and24 CPU cores, and I run kvm/quemu on it with CentOS 7 as the OS.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:52 PM <markw at mohawksoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Containers are NOT a light weight vm. Processes in a container are
> >>> processes in the main system.
> >>>
> >>> Containers are essentially processes run in a chroot jail. The LXC
> >>> stuff
> >>> in the linux kernel adds a lot of namespace isolation and tools for
> >>> containers, but in the end a process in a container are processes in
> >>> your
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> In a VM the hypervisor has a process ID, but all the processes in a VM
> >>> are
> >>> in the VM and not really exposed to the system.
> >>>
> >>> > We have had many meetings on vms and containers. Vms have been around
> >>> > since
> >>> > the 1970s. KVM has been in the mainline kernel since 2007. Containers
> >>> are
> >>> > a
> >>> > more lightweight vm.
> >>> >
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> >>> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 10:34 AM Edward <epp at sillydog.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Virtual Machines?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I did a Google search on the BLU site for any past meetings
> >>> pertaining
> >>> >> to VM's and it found none.
> >>> >>
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