From boumanmcc at mykolab.com Wed Sep 1 16:22:02 2021 From: boumanmcc at mykolab.com (MC) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:22:02 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Phone company: not redpocket.com Message-ID: been using redpocket.com for 2 years, but within the last 2 weeks found service breaking down. Any suggestions? Many thanks. MCB From dsr at randomstring.org Wed Sep 1 16:37:13 2021 From: dsr at randomstring.org (Dan Ritter) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:37:13 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Phone company: not redpocket.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20210901203713.uk6gnfu5jawzg44m@randomstring.org> MC wrote: > been using redpocket.com for 2 years, but within the last 2 weeks found > service breaking down. Any suggestions? Many thanks. MCB Assuming you want SIP VOIP services interconnecting with POTS; let us know if otherwise. Here's what I can tell you: voip.ms: prepay money, and spend it down. Reasonably cheap. Extremely chatty with their service notifications RSS feed, which will tell you which of their local POPs is being upgraded, or is being repaired, or if their customer service center is having a bad day. Based in Canada. At least a decade of good service. onsip.com, aka junction networks: would prefer to sell you virtual PBX services but will do SIP trunks without hesitation. Very reliable. Moderately expensive per-minute, but will sell you an all-you-can-eat per-line if you're not operating a major call center operation. At least 15 years of good service. 8x8, formerly Packet8: no longer does SIP trunks, but sells relatively cheap all-you-can-eat per-line accounts, starting at $12/month. Contributes money to Jitsi. The higher level plans include their own Jitsi servers with SLAs. -dsr- From randyokc at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 19:05:17 2021 From: randyokc at gmail.com (Randy Cole) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:05:17 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Phone company: not redpocket.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cell phones are probably a little bit off-topic for Linux. It's probably more apropos to Telecom Digest! In any case, Red Rocket appears to be a reseller of the major cell networks ATT, T-mobile, and Verizon. ATT & T-mobile service is advertised as "5G", therefore Verizon must be less preferred. You should already know that T-mobile and Sprint have merged, with Sprint's pre-paid services (known as Boost Mobile) divested to Dish Network. Sprint's CDMA network is supposed to stay up for about another year but I read that T-mobile has been shutting it down and shifting bandwidth to T-mobile, causing problems for customer still using the Sprint legacy network. You should 1. call customer service and 2. determine which network you are using and 3. determine if you have an old phone that is either malfunctioning or doesn't have the correct bands that you need. If you are on the Sprint legacy network you may have to migrate sooner rather than later. And 4. is your phone unlocked or eligible for unlocking. If you are not satisfied with your customer service you can port to a different MVNO or provider. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 4:24 PM MC wrote: > been using redpocket.com for 2 years, but within the last 2 weeks found > service breaking down. Any suggestions? Many thanks. MCB > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From randyokc at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 19:46:46 2021 From: randyokc at gmail.com (Randy Cole) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:46:46 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Phone company: not redpocket.com In-Reply-To: <20210901203713.uk6gnfu5jawzg44m@randomstring.org> References: <20210901203713.uk6gnfu5jawzg44m@randomstring.org> Message-ID: voip.ms service starts at 85 cents a month for measured service, plus about a penny a minute. E-911 adds a buck or two iirc. Want name lookup with your caller id? That adds a penny or two. Want SMS or MMS? That's available at a small cost too. Want your name listed in the White Pages that Verizon no longer distributes anyway? I think that is extra. Inexpensive toll-free number option, cheap fixed-price for inbound calls option (imagine if you have a pizzeria or some business where the number of calls you will receive is unknown). They even have fax line service (who needs that other than lawyers or real estate agents?). Located in Quebec but has servers in NY & around the country. Some credit card bank issuers charge a small surcharge for foreign transactions even though the transaction is denominated in dollars! Seems to be reliable and has lots of options, has a $10 referral bonus program ($10 for me, $10 for the new customer), email me if you are interested in signing up for service lol. They are geared towards serving businesses & technical folks, leaving Joe Consumer to Magic Jack and Straight Talk and whatever the big box stores are selling. The biggest problem with SIP is getting a soft phone client to work on my cell phone, reliably. SIP really needs a persistent connection which is incompatible with battery conserving techniques and suspension of background apps. Haven't looked at SIP clients for Linux recently, seemed to work okay 5-6 years ago. As for hardware, most of the reasonable ATA (analog telephone adapter) gear seems to be deprecated and without recent security updates and I don't want to pay what it costs for current business-grade equipment. Phones shouldn't cost almost as much as a computer... On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 4:39 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > MC wrote: > > been using redpocket.com for 2 years, but within the last 2 weeks found > > service breaking down. Any suggestions? Many thanks. MCB > > Assuming you want SIP VOIP services interconnecting with POTS; > let us know if otherwise. > > Here's what I can tell you: > > voip.ms: prepay money, and spend it down. Reasonably cheap. > Extremely chatty with their service notifications RSS feed, > which will tell you which of their local POPs is being upgraded, > or is being repaired, or if their customer service center is > having a bad day. Based in Canada. At least a decade of good > service. > > onsip.com, aka junction networks: would prefer to sell you > virtual PBX services but will do SIP trunks without hesitation. > Very reliable. Moderately expensive per-minute, but will sell > you an all-you-can-eat per-line if you're not operating a major > call center operation. At least 15 years of good service. > > 8x8, formerly Packet8: no longer does SIP trunks, but sells > relatively cheap all-you-can-eat per-line accounts, starting > at $12/month. Contributes money to Jitsi. The higher level plans > include their own Jitsi servers with SLAs. > > -dsr- > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From malassimilation at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 23:58:59 2021 From: malassimilation at gmail.com (Bill Horne) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 23:58:59 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Phone company: not redpocket.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/1/2021 7:05 PM, Randy Cole wrote: > Cell phones are probably a little bit off-topic for Linux. It's probably > more apropos to Telecom Digest! Randy, That's a good idea! I suggest you designate a member of the BLU to be the telephone savant who will file a post on this subject to The Telecom Digest. The posting address for the Telecom Digest is telecomdigestsubmission at telecom-digest.org , and those whom prefer Usenet can use comp.dcom.telecom to submit a post. Thanks for your suggestion. Bill Horne Moderator The Telecom Digest From boumanmcc at mykolab.com Sat Sep 4 13:11:16 2021 From: boumanmcc at mykolab.com (MC) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 13:11:16 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] unlock BBz10 Message-ID: <350a7769b1f87f11173e56994a83d41a@mykolab.com> rogers canada instructed use of unlock codes to execute hard lock and they got what they wanted: phone is now hardlocked. Any hope for this? MCB From gaf.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 10:38:21 2021 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 10:38:21 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] USB Wifi adapter Message-ID: I have an elderly usb wifi adapter that works fine but it is on the slow side and only 2.4GHz. I tried a netgear AC1200, but I was not able to get the drivers loaded on fedora and not really worth the effort. Since I only have wifi in this house, I would prefer a better wifi adapter. Any recommendations. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 From richard.pieri at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 12:44:52 2021 From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 12:44:52 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] USB Wifi adapter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61379703.1c69fb81.3ef6d.3999@mx.google.com> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 10:38:21 -0400 Jerry Feldman wrote: > I have an elderly usb wifi adapter that works fine but it is on the > slow side and only 2.4GHz. I tried a netgear AC1200, but I was not > able to get the drivers loaded on fedora and not really worth the > effort. Since I only have wifi in this house, I would prefer a better > wifi adapter. Any recommendations. None of the thumb-drive type USB adapters have 5GHz worth bothering with (if at all). If you really need 5GHz then you will need something like the Panda PAU09. But if you just need a reliable 802.11n dongle then the Panda PAU05 is good. -- Rich Pieri From gaf.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 12:50:53 2021 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 12:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] USB Wifi adapter In-Reply-To: <61379703.1c69fb81.3ef6d.3999@mx.google.com> References: <61379703.1c69fb81.3ef6d.3999@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rich. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:46 PM Rich Pieri wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 10:38:21 -0400 > Jerry Feldman wrote: > > > I have an elderly usb wifi adapter that works fine but it is on the > > slow side and only 2.4GHz. I tried a netgear AC1200, but I was not > > able to get the drivers loaded on fedora and not really worth the > > effort. Since I only have wifi in this house, I would prefer a better > > wifi adapter. Any recommendations. > > None of the thumb-drive type USB adapters have 5GHz worth bothering > with (if at all). If you really need 5GHz then you will need something > like the Panda PAU09. But if you just need a reliable 802.11n dongle > then the Panda PAU05 is good. > > -- > Rich Pieri > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From jbk at kjkelra.com Wed Sep 8 09:26:35 2021 From: jbk at kjkelra.com (jbk) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 09:26:35 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] SSH and Server OS Migration Message-ID: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> I am migrating my home file and backup server from SL 7 to Rocky 8 in a dual boot arrangement. It serves three or four other notebooks and workstation. The backup program (BackupPC) uses ssh on the client machines to call rsync and transmit the backup data. What I though I could do so that I didn't have to update the "knownhosts" file on all machines was to substitute the public and private keys on Rocky with those from SL 7 ( /etc/ssh). This did not work, as I get the error fingerprint does not match from other machine. I thought I had done this 10 years ago when I last upgraded the server. Since then SSH has changed the allowed key types (dsa to escda) for better encryption and I had to go through the process of updating the keys and knownhost files on all the machines. It is going to take me a while to get the backup server configured on Rocky so I will be continuing to use SL 7 during this process. Is it possible to substitute the keys on Rocky for those on SL 7? -- Jim Kelly-Rand jbk at kjkelra.com From eric.chadbourne at icloud.com Wed Sep 8 09:51:11 2021 From: eric.chadbourne at icloud.com (Eric Chadbourne) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 09:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] SSH and Server OS Migration In-Reply-To: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> References: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> Message-ID: <1f5d465b-92e0-6f4a-dad2-dad8434d9cc6@icloud.com> On 9/8/21 9:26 AM, jbk wrote: > I am migrating my home file and backup server from SL 7 to Rocky 8 in a > dual boot arrangement. It serves three or four other notebooks and > workstation. The backup program (BackupPC) uses ssh on the client > machines to call rsync and transmit the backup data. > What I though I could do so that I didn't have to update the > "knownhosts" file on all machines was to substitute the public and > private keys on Rocky with those from SL 7 ( /etc/ssh). This did not > work, as I get the error fingerprint does not match from other machine. > I thought I had done this 10 years ago when I last upgraded the server. > Since then SSH has changed the allowed key types (dsa to escda) for > better encryption and I had to go through the process of updating the > keys and knownhost files on all the machines. > It is going to take me a while to get the backup server configured on > Rocky so I will be continuing to use SL 7 during this process. > Is it possible to substitute the keys on Rocky for those on SL 7? > I think you can either write a two line bash script to remove and add the keys, or look at StrictHostKeyChecking. Eric From jbk at kjkelra.com Wed Sep 8 10:32:40 2021 From: jbk at kjkelra.com (jbk) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 10:32:40 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] SSH and Server OS Migration In-Reply-To: <1f5d465b-92e0-6f4a-dad2-dad8434d9cc6@icloud.com> References: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> <1f5d465b-92e0-6f4a-dad2-dad8434d9cc6@icloud.com> Message-ID: <25c828af-1b0a-09a0-a2d5-67a8fa9fc2f5@kjkelra.com> On 9/8/21 9:51 AM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: > > On 9/8/21 9:26 AM, jbk wrote: >> I am migrating my home file and backup server from SL 7 >> to Rocky 8 in a dual boot arrangement. It serves three or >> four other notebooks and workstation. The backup program >> (BackupPC) uses ssh on the client machines to call rsync >> and transmit the backup data. >> What I though I could do so that I didn't have to update >> the "knownhosts" file on all machines was to substitute >> the public and private keys on Rocky with those from SL 7 >> ( /etc/ssh). This did not work, as I get the error >> fingerprint does not match from other machine. >> I thought I had done this 10 years ago when I last >> upgraded the server. Since then SSH has changed the >> allowed key types (dsa to escda) for better encryption >> and I had to go through the process of updating the keys >> and knownhost files on all the machines. >> It is going to take me a while to get the backup server >> configured on Rocky so I will be continuing to use SL 7 >> during this process. >> Is it possible to substitute the keys on Rocky for those >> on SL 7? >> > > > I think you can either write a two line bash script to > remove and add the keys, or look at StrictHostKeyChecking. > > Eric These seem reasonable routes to pursue during the transition phase on one of the client machines. It's easy enough to create two knownhosts files and substituting one for the other during the testing phase. I will just have to update all the knownhosts files once the final transition is made. Rocky does come with a nifty tool ( cockpit ) that was helpful during the initial set up, but it is tied to the original SSH keys and would be broken with my intended approach. -- Jim Kelly-Rand jbk at kjkelra.com From me at mattgillen.net Wed Sep 8 19:58:15 2021 From: me at mattgillen.net (Matthew Gillen) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 19:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] SSH and Server OS Migration In-Reply-To: <25c828af-1b0a-09a0-a2d5-67a8fa9fc2f5@kjkelra.com> References: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> <1f5d465b-92e0-6f4a-dad2-dad8434d9cc6@icloud.com> <25c828af-1b0a-09a0-a2d5-67a8fa9fc2f5@kjkelra.com> Message-ID: On 9/8/2021 10:32 AM, jbk wrote: > On 9/8/21 9:51 AM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: >> >> On 9/8/21 9:26 AM, jbk wrote: >>> I am migrating my home file and backup server from SL 7 to Rocky 8 in >>> a dual boot arrangement. It serves three or four other notebooks and >>> workstation. The backup program (BackupPC) uses ssh on the client >>> machines to call rsync and transmit the backup data. >>> What I though I could do so that I didn't have to update the >>> "knownhosts" file on all machines was to substitute the public and >>> private keys on Rocky with those from SL 7 ( /etc/ssh). This did not >>> work, as I get the error fingerprint does not match from other machine. >>> I thought I had done this 10 years ago when I last upgraded the >>> server. Since then SSH has changed the allowed key types (dsa to >>> escda) for better encryption and I had to go through the process of >>> updating the keys and knownhost files on all the machines. >>> It is going to take me a while to get the backup server configured on >>> Rocky so I will be continuing to use SL 7 during this process. >>> Is it possible to substitute the keys on Rocky for those on SL 7? >>> >> >> >> I think you can either write a two line bash script to remove and add >> the keys, or look at StrictHostKeyChecking. >> >> Eric > These seem reasonable routes to pursue during the transition phase on > one of the client machines. It's easy enough to create two knownhosts > files and substituting one for the other during the testing phase. I > will just have to update all the knownhosts files once the final > transition is made. > > Rocky does come with a nifty tool ( cockpit ) that was helpful during > the initial set up, but it is tied to the original SSH keys and would be > broken with my intended approach. If you want to get fancy you could put the server key fingerprint in DNS and set the default configuration on the client boxes to include VerifyHostKeyDNS It will then implicitly trust a host key that matches the DNS record. e.g. https://www.matoski.com/article/sshfp-dns-records/ Matt From jbk at kjkelra.com Thu Sep 9 07:20:51 2021 From: jbk at kjkelra.com (jbk) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 07:20:51 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] SSH and Server OS Migration In-Reply-To: References: <5626b25b-b82a-70ea-bf81-07f6dd0a9dfb@kjkelra.com> <1f5d465b-92e0-6f4a-dad2-dad8434d9cc6@icloud.com> <25c828af-1b0a-09a0-a2d5-67a8fa9fc2f5@kjkelra.com> Message-ID: On 9/8/21 7:58 PM, Matthew Gillen wrote: > ... >>>> Is it possible to substitute the keys on Rocky for those on SL 7? >>>> >>> >>> I think you can either write a two line bash script to remove and add >>> the keys, or look at StrictHostKeyChecking. >>> >>> Eric >> These seem reasonable routes to pursue during the transition phase on >> one of the client machines. It's easy enough to create two knownhosts >> files and substituting one for the other during the testing phase. I >> will just have to update all the knownhosts files once the final >> transition is made. >> >> Rocky does come with a nifty tool ( cockpit ) that was helpful during >> the initial set up, but it is tied to the original SSH keys and would be >> broken with my intended approach. > If you want to get fancy you could put the server key fingerprint in DNS > and set the default configuration on the client boxes to include > VerifyHostKeyDNS > > It will then implicitly trust a host key that matches the DNS record. e.g. > https://www.matoski.com/article/sshfp-dns-records/ > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > . I think I'm set with just substituting knownhosts files. I imagine to accomplish what you suggest would require implementing on my dd-wrt router. My environment is pretty static so updating the key on 5 machines isn't to much work. For testing I only needed to switch back and forth on one notebook. Migrating the BackupPC server is going much quicker than I thought. Thanks, Jim From gaf.linux at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 14:12:57 2021 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 14:12:57 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] USB Wifi adapter In-Reply-To: References: <61379703.1c69fb81.3ef6d.3999@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Taking Rich's experience I bought a Panda PAU09. Plugged it in and was recognized immediately. I was then able to lock it in to 5GHz. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:50 PM Jerry Feldman wrote: > Thanks Rich. > > -- > Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org > PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 > PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 > B B6E7 > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:46 PM Rich Pieri wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 10:38:21 -0400 >> Jerry Feldman wrote: >> >> > I have an elderly usb wifi adapter that works fine but it is on the >> > slow side and only 2.4GHz. I tried a netgear AC1200, but I was not >> > able to get the drivers loaded on fedora and not really worth the >> > effort. Since I only have wifi in this house, I would prefer a better >> > wifi adapter. Any recommendations. >> >> None of the thumb-drive type USB adapters have 5GHz worth bothering >> with (if at all). If you really need 5GHz then you will need something >> like the Panda PAU09. But if you just need a reliable 802.11n dongle >> then the Panda PAU05 is good. >> >> -- >> Rich Pieri >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.blu.org >> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > From gaf.linux at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 15:28:39 2021 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Boston Linux VIRTUAL Meeting Wednesday, September 15, 2021 - Crypto News Review, Historical Vignette, and Transitioning from PGP/GnuPG Message-ID: <36006745-ec2d-c7ca-f086-d3f2aa72297d@gmail.com> When: September 15, 2021 7:00PM EDT (6:30PM for Q&A) Topic: Crypto News Review, Historical Vignette, and Transitioning from PGP/GnuPG Moderator: Bill Ricker Location: Online: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org Live stream: https://youtu.be/fbghHGtdkg4 Summary: Bill's annual crypto and security roundup Abstract: Bill reviews the year in crypto news, shares some crypto history, and discusses current best practices for crypto. For further information and directions please consult the BLU Web site: http://www.blu.org -- Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1? 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/announce From kkeville at mit.edu Tue Sep 21 12:12:43 2021 From: kkeville at mit.edu (Kurt L Keville) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:12:43 +0000 Subject: [Discuss] Please join us at the OpenSuperComputing BoF Message-ID: <1632240762299.27101@mit.edu> ... at IEEE HPEC on Wednesday. We will have Pierre-Emmanuel Gaillardon (University of Utah) speak on the Open-Source FPGA Foundation on Wednesday at 5:30 PM EST. There is a free registration option if you haven't signed up yet. Please feel free to forward the invite. Kurt Keville http://www.ieee-hpec.org/? From boumanmcc at mykolab.com Sun Sep 26 14:53:24 2021 From: boumanmcc at mykolab.com (MC) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 14:53:24 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Off Topic and Proud of It: Untraceable Garage Door Openers: No Alexa, No Siri, no nothing Message-ID: Okay...this is off-topic, but i'm sick and tired of living under surveillance in this country and i'm not gonna tolerate the new NSA stunt: I can't buy a garage door opener without it having the option for a Siri or Alexa authorization. I just want a stupid motorized door......ANY SUGGESTIONS???? From dsr at randomstring.org Sun Sep 26 15:29:50 2021 From: dsr at randomstring.org (Dan Ritter) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 15:29:50 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Off Topic and Proud of It: Untraceable Garage Door Openers: No Alexa, No Siri, no nothing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20210926192950.nnmf7bzbwsq5gxks@randomstring.org> MC wrote: > Okay...this is off-topic, but i'm sick and tired of living under > surveillance in this country and i'm not gonna tolerate the new NSA stunt: I > can't buy a garage door opener without it having the option for a Siri or > Alexa authorization. I just want a stupid motorized door......ANY > SUGGESTIONS???? It took me not quite a minute to go to homedepot.com and discover they have 11 kinds of garage door openers in stock in Waltham, and 5 of them are not "smart" units. So you have at least five to choose from, starting at $128. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Chamberlain-1-2-HP-Heavy-Duty-Chain-Drive-Garage-Door-Opener-D2101/316307826#product-overview Three in stock right now. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Genie-QuietLift-750-3-4-HPc-Ultra-Quiet-Belt-Drive-Garage-Door-Opener-1055-TKV/310599562#product-overview Four in stock, optional "smart" addon but it's not included etc. -dsr- From mark at buttery.org Sun Sep 26 15:30:09 2021 From: mark at buttery.org (=?UTF-8?B?U2hpcmxleSBNw6FycXVleiBEw7psY2V5?=) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 15:30:09 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Off Topic and Proud of It: Untraceable Garage Door Openers: No Alexa, No Siri, no nothing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The smart home connectivity seems to be an optional add-on for a few of the low end openers. Aside from that, your best bets are likely to be a used opener or a new old stock one that is sitting around at an old school hardware store, rather than a chain store like Home Depot or Lowe's. On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 2:54 PM MC wrote: > Okay...this is off-topic, but i'm sick and tired of living under > surveillance in this country and i'm not gonna tolerate the new NSA > stunt: I can't buy a garage door opener without it having the option for > a Siri or Alexa authorization. I just want a stupid motorized > door......ANY SUGGESTIONS???? > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From eric.chadbourne at icloud.com Mon Sep 27 09:03:03 2021 From: eric.chadbourne at icloud.com (Eric Chadbourne) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:03:03 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Off Topic and Proud of It: Untraceable Garage Door Openers: No Alexa, No Siri, no nothing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02827F7F-CD7D-4AD4-8A28-65BA1102F342@icloud.com> You can always make your own. Could probably do it over the weekend. Might be a fun project. Eric Chadbourne Consulting > On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:54 PM, MC wrote: > > ?Okay...this is off-topic, but i'm sick and tired of living under surveillance in this country and i'm not gonna tolerate the new NSA stunt: I can't buy a garage door opener without it having the option for a Siri or Alexa authorization. I just want a stupid motorized door......ANY SUGGESTIONS???? > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From jdm at moylan.us Mon Sep 27 19:52:20 2021 From: jdm at moylan.us (dan moylan) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] chrome help Message-ID: i've been using chrome as my default browser for some time, but recently two things have changed (for the worse) and i have been unable to figure out how to change them back. 1. password auto fill: i'm asked whether to save or not as usual, so i say yes, but autofill doesn't work. i see the passwords under google, but not under settings. 2. i used to be able to select the application used when clicking on files, such as pdf or midi. now when i click on pdf it shows ok, but midi file just download. i can no longer find the link to select the application. any help would be appreciated. tia, ole dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-777-0207 (cel) jdm at moylan.us www.moylan.us [BLM]