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Shaun Noonan wrote: > >> BTW, do famous computer-type-people always show up and yell at us for > >> talking about commercial software for Linux-based GNU systems? =) No, that was a first for us. Guess that's evidence that the group is growing in recognition. As I stated at the meeting, I believe that the Free Software Foundation and Richard Stallman in particular have contributed a great deal, in forging the mindset which led to one of the world's largest distributed software development projects in history. Only the BSD system probably has had more contributors to its base of code and documentation. Linux is better than many commercial software systems because of the sheer magnitude of work which has gone into it (the overall package, not just the kernel or any particular application), and because of the extensive field testing it has gotten since 1991. The Internet itself has played a key role in this development, by creating the forum for exchange of ideas, code, documentation, and test feedback. No commercial firm can match this combined effort. And we all benefit. But Stallman and I disagree on how society should benefit from this so-called Linux-based GNU system. I believe that an operating environment as rich as this can and should be used as the foundation for a wave of commercial and non-commercial innovation. The freeware community, rather than merely protecting this legacy intact and enshrining it as the be-all and end-all of operating environments, should move on to next-generation projects. Such is my ambition. Jabr wrote: > We don't have much of a Linux presence at the Resource Center, just yet. > We've got a Sun 386i with 150 MB drive, a diskless Sun 3/50, and a > NeXT '030 cube with an 80 MB drive. Our Internet mail server runs Linux, > but that's not a general public-access system. Also, the Resource Center > manager, Paul Watts, is not convinced that there's significant interest > in Unix and Linux systems in the Resource Center. The Resource Center has acquired a new Pentium system for use as the primary Internet server. And it has formalized the process of setting up a high-speed Internet link which is moving forward as fast as the bureaucratic machinery can move (the challenge is making sure that a variety of interests are served fairly). The old mail server will continue to run Linux. Two Linux servers at the BCS resource center is actually not a shabby presence, in my mind (as modest as these machines are, they are in fact the finest of the computers in BCS's possession). Also, there is a plan to set up a 10BaseT LAN throughout the office, which will enable us to run TCP/IP from all the Macs and PCs into the Internet and the Linux servers. I would like to see the Linux/Unix (Gnu system) users' group begin to use these resources to run hands-on evening/weekend workshops, modeled after what we did at the MegaMeeting. By setting up these workshops, it will be much more evident to folks like Paul that there is in fact interest in Unix/Linux. (Standing-room-only meeting rooms full of 50 people are more convincing in person than via email...) Paul has been quite supportive of our efforts, but obviously there are a hundred things pulling BCS in different directions. If some of you reading this are interested in commercial applications for Linux and how it can be used implement online services, please write back and I'll think of setting up a meeting for people interested in these projects. On the first Tuesday of each month is a meeting of the BCS electronic services committee, for those of you who are committed to helping the BCS shape its Internet and bulletin board offerings. -rich
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