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Rodney Thayer wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: RT> There is an ip tunneled over appletalk, at least they claim RT> that's what they are doing. RT> When the net comes up I'll just use a LAN monitor to figure RT> out what's there. The meaning of "AppleTalk" was changed in 1989, and this makes for substantial confusion. Until 1989, "AppleTalk" referred to what is now known as "LocalTalk," the 230.4 kbps serial serial system used originally to communicate with printers. After 1989, "AppleTalk" refers to the whole protocol stack up through AppleShare and Apple Filing Protocol which can run over LocalTalk, EtherTalk, and TokenTalk. You can use IP over LocalTalk, although it would be slow. Encapsulating (new) AppleTalk into IP would allow tunneling through IP networks, and this might have some uses. However, encapsulating IP into (new) AppleTalk would be fairly ridiculous. -- Mike
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