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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > >Currently, you run Linux, because you recognize that MS products have > >serious issues. Do you plan to change your mind suddenly when MS releases > >Outlook for Linux? I didn't think so... > > I'm not saying *I* will change my mind. What I'm saying is that the current > argument for *not* using Linux on the desktop is "Lack of apps" which loosely > translates to "Lack of MS Office". One Office is ported to Linux (which is > like to happen fairly quickly if MS is broken up) we may see many large > companies with many ingnorant/dumb users moving Linux to the desktop with > Office/IE/Outlook on it. When that occurs, then these types of things can and > will happen. The fact that it's an application problem and not an OS problem > will be entirely ignored by the media, and greatly played up by the MS pr > folks. Linux is currently a shining star in the market right now. This is > all it will take to shoot that shining star and have linux-based companies' > stock plummet. OK, I was tired and irritable when I wrote the original. The point is there's a certain mindset behind running Linux. As Linux spreads, the mindset does too. We, as the "unix people" need to continue to educate people as to why it is we run Linux, and as to what is wrong with MS products, both from a stability and from a security standpoint. Granted, with many corporate types this is an uphill battle. But it's one we CAN win, if a) we are dilligent and b) the desktop apps available for Linux come up to snuff. Unfortunately, for right now, this means they need to be Microsoft Office compatible, because 80-90% of Corporate America has allowed themselves to be duped into thinking they are dependent on Microsoft Office proprietary document formats. This is the single largest frustration for me in my occupation. We need to educate people at an early age as to why proprietary data formats are detrimental. Some of the most important reasons: * They lock you into using one vendor's products * They INVARIABLY use up considerably more computing resources than non-proprietary data formats, which drives up the expense * They make it difficult to communicate with associates who have chosen some other proprietary vendor. As we have seen with Microsoft products, the defacto standard of the day, there are added concerns: * Their products ship configured insecurely BY DEFAULT * Thier products are prone to attack by viruses because of a lack of security measures * Their networking products are prone to attack by a variety of means, not the least of which are well-documented "back door" passwords and such * They introduce RIDICULOUS amounts of bloat to your data * Their programs are themselves ridiculously bloated * They are absurdly expensive, especially considering there are free replacements for all of these applications, some of which run on Windows as well as Linux. Microsoft does not seem to take the value of your computing resources or the security of your data very seriously. Given these things, I can't imagine why business leaders have allowed these conditions to persist. The obvious answer is not to use this junk, especially for day-to-day business-to-business communications. Ok, so what are the alternatives, you ask... ASCII Text Ultimately portable and lightwieght. Nothing beats it. For standard day-to-day business communications, this should be the standard. HTML Need a basic presentation, or need to be able to display data in tables? Then HTML is for you. It's nothing more than ASCII text formatted using plain ASCII text tags. And you don't need to know how to write HTML, because all of the better wordprocessing programs will save their documents in HTML. XML Admittedly, I don't know very much about XML. A lot of the OSS office suites seem to be using it a lot for their data format. I gather it's a lot like HTML but more extensible. PDF/PS For documents which include graphics and do not need to be modified, either of these will suffice, though PDF is a bit more portable. Shockwave/Flash For heavy duty presentations that require lots of flair and flash, shockwave is the answer. It runs on all major platforms, including Windows, Mac, and Unix/Linux via web browser or stand-alone executable. It is also far more lightweight than Powerpoint, though it can do far more impressive things than Powerpoint, at least from what I've seen. I recently created a 3-line e-mail message in MS Office 2000. I saved it as ASCII text, and it was about 230 bytes. I resaved it as HTML, and it was about 3kB. I edited the HTML by hand and halved that to about 1.5kB since Microsoft can't do ANYTHING without introducing serious bloat. Then I saved it as a word doc, and the thing went up to over 19k! That's almost ONE HUNDRED TIMES LARGER than the original ASCII text!!! Is there any doubt that using Microsoft attachments for e-mail is a gigantic waste of resources? And if you MUST have office functionality, there are free tools that do the same job. They don't have ALL the features that MS Office and its ancillary tools have, and they may not be able to read and write MS Office formats, but they do work just fine, and compatibility with a random proprietary data format is NOT something that people should consider desireable. KOffice is an example of such a suite of tools. It seems to be very stable and has most of the commonly used features of the comparable MS Office products. It may not (or may, I don't know) offer MS Office compatibility, but I still maintain that this should NOT be a requirement, since you should NOT be sending such documents to your business partners. All communications of this type should be done using one of the afforementioned INTERNET STANDARD portable document formats. > >> Not true. The devastating aspect of ILOVEYOU and Melissa was that it > >> replicated itself via e-mail and mailed itself to everyone in a persons > >> addressbook or corporate LDAP directory. A simple perl script, auto > >> executed could have severely damaging consequences. The point is that even commercial Unix vendors, who have been writing software for Unix for 3 decades, don't ship products that do stupid things like this by default, or in most cases, at all. OSS developers are too smart to do this, so I doubt you'll ever see it there. They typically emulate the LOOK of MS apps, because that's the one thing they do well. But as for the design and implementation flaws, they just ain't there. [SNIP] > >Well, if you choose to turn such a feature on, I'll have little sympathy > >for you when this happens. I might even consider "accidentally" losing > >the backup tapes that have your files on them... You'll probably figure > >out fairly quickly that you shouldn't have that crap on. > As a sysadmin, I'll have lot's of sympathy for you as you begin restoring not > only my files from those tapes, but those of all the other people in the > company whose file got blown away the same way. And please explain how you > will turn to the CEO and tell him you "accidently" lost the backup tapes with > his files on it? Or the CFO, who will probably turn to you and reply that, > "Oh, your salary review was contained in those files, as was your employment > contract. I guess you no longer work for us." :) Sorry, BOFH moment... As I said I was tired and irritable when I wrote the original, and I think you know that I wouldn't really do that. Though the thought would cross my mind, I'm sure. Who was it that said "stupidity should be painful." Oh, yeah, it was Paul! :) > >I don't think it will happen so easily. Unix people have had 30 years to > >figure out that lots of people just aren't as nice as they ought to be... > >ultimately it's current Unix people who will be teaching the future Unix > >people, so that lesson will get passed on. You learned it, didn't you? > > I am but one person. And yes, as a sysadmin, I've learned lot's of lessons > that the average person hastn't. But the word is getting out. All the tech rags currently have articles about how microsoft's products ship insecurely. People are taking notice, and people are LEARNING. > How many times have we had unix users come > to us to restore files because they had no clue how to properly use the tools > they were given to do the job. Actually, twice that I can recall, and it was the same guy. It doesn't happen that often. In my previous experience where lots of restores were being done, it was most often because of a careless system administrator. If your environment is set up properly, there should be a minimum amount of damage that a single user can do. You should also have usage and security policies in place that outline how not to be vulnerable to such problems, and take disciplinary action against those who do not follow the policies. Your company's data is too important not to take this seriously. The time in lost productivity recovering from such a debacle is to valuable to not take this seriously. > >Plus, let's not forget that most people who run Linux on their PC > >do so because they find MS apps unsatisfactory, and often the nature of > >that which they find lacking is security and stability. > > Currently, today, right now, this is true. Shoot forward a few years to when > Linux is just as popular as Windows, MS has been broken up, and Office 2001 > for Linux is selling like hotcakes (granted, this will be sometime in 2006 :) > We will see large companies moving desktops to Linux, and they will be > running MS Office. And it will happen quickly. Not if I can help it. And I will ask you all to help me educate managers everywhere, and try to make them see that using Microsoft Office and similar products is BAD for their business. Use this post verbatim if you would like, or just steal the good bits. This is my plea for today. :) -- Derek Martin System Administrator Mission Critical Linux martin at MissionCriticalLinux.com - Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the message body to discuss-request at blu.org (Subject line is ignored).
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