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Folks, This is Dan Geer. I'm CTO of @stake and have known some of you for fifteen years all the way back to MIT Athena. I've been on the road a lot lately, so this ought to have been written sooner and would have been were I caught up on mail more often. Guerrilla.net was, once upon a time, part of L0PHT Heavy Industries, but was separated from the latter at the end of 1999. In December of that year some, but not all, of the assets of LHI was bought by a new venture which appeared on 6 January 2000, viz., @Stake. Some, but by no means all, of the people who'd been employed by LHI came over to @Stake. I myself joined on 3 January. What assets were bought and what assets were not was a business decision like any other, made largely by our venture backers at the very get-go. The guerrilla.net was not acquired and it went its own way, details of which I actually do not have mostly because I don't know much of anything about wasn't bought. And as with any business, and especially a baby one in early 2000, getting noticed in a deluge of hyped press releases was both a priority and a challenge. As you can tell from various archives, our then head of marketing decided to play, as one of you said, the hackers go legit angle. We really did get fantastic amouns of press attention though had I myself been in charge of press we'd have been quieter -- which probably demonstrates that marketing is absolutely not my forte. As of today, @Stake is doing well in an environment in which competitors large and small are dying in public. Most, but not all, of the original LHI personnel are with us still and they form the majority of our internal R&D operation. We are more risk management than technical security which, in an era where showing return on investment is a requirement in the selling process, turns out to be a very good thing. Along those lines, handles have been dropped, e.g., it is "Pieter Zatko" rather than "Mudge" these days. How it is that guerrilla.net still is DNS related to l0pht.com is surely an oversight, a bit of laziness, or both. And if this ain't enough, fire away with questions. For those who attend BBLISA, see you October 10th. Regards, --dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ formalities: Daniel E. Geer, Jr., Sc.D. Chief Technology Officer @Stake, Inc. corp 196 Broadway Cambridge, Mass. 02139 Telephone: +1 617 621 3500 Direct-in: +1 617 768 2723 Facsimile: +1 617 621 1738 self P.O. Box 244 Cambridge, Mass. 02139 Telephone: +1 617 492 6814 also President USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, California 94710 business email: geer at atstake.com other email: geer at world.std.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the message body to discuss-request at blu.org (Subject line is ignored).
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