Fwd: Possible GPL violation by Red Hat/Dell alliance

[wizard at neonedge.com (Wizard)]

I think that this argument is kinda silly. Please remember that in this
instance, RedHat is the 'little guy'. Dell is the company to worry about in
that for a very many years they were a Microsoft pawn, and didn't choose
Linux until it became blindingly apparent that it was a player in the server
game. It's my opinion that Dell is the Goliath here, and that RedHat will
likely not do anything without Dell giving a 'go-ahead'. This may not be the
right way, but in that a Dell account translates to a substantial amount of
money for RedHat, I can understand it.
Grant M.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-admin at blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org]On Behalf Of
> Paul Iadonisi
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:14 PM
> To: Boston Linux and Unix
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Possible GPL violation by Red Hat/Dell alliance
>
>
> On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 17:28, GNU/Linux :-) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I have never sayd that redhat is doing anything against the GPL, I just
> > said that I don't like the positition they take for some issues and
> > that I wont be surprised if they actually one day do, I think I have
> > freedom of speech to actually say what I think, you like it or not.
>
>   Eh?  Did I ever say you had no *right* to say what you said?  I don't
> think so.  But I was rebutting it, as best I could as there were few
> specifics to rebut.  And I'll do that whenever anyone openly critiques
> Red Hat to be another voice for people to hear so they can weigh the
> comments of both views.  I want people to come to their own conclusions.
> But I won't let critiques go unchallenged when I believe them to be
> unfounded, so those listening in (reading?) can hear alternative points
> of view.
>
> > and I still disagree with RedHaT in some politics they have, I don't
> > care what you have to say to make them look good.
> > Maybe because:
> >
> > "Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist"
>
>   Again, eh?  For the same reason I am stockholder, I also got my RHCE
> early on *because* I believe in Red Hat's position on many issues and
> find them more amenable than most distributions out there, particularly
> for a commercial company.  It's not the other way around, i.e. that I am
> somehow beholden to or a shill for Red Hat because I have an RHCE.  I'm
> not saying anything 'to make them look good' and it's a bit of an insult
> for you to imply it (though I don't really take it personally, as I've
> been on-line long enough to develop a thick skin).  I don't believe I
> need to say things to make them look good.  Their actions speak for
> themselves.
>   For the record, I am Red Hat stockholder, an RHCE, and a few other
> things I'll leave unmentioned for the moment, *because* I believe in Red
> Hat as a company and the choices they have made.  I do *not* believe
> that Red Hat can do no wrong, however.  I have privately, and sometimes
> publicly criticized some moves they've made, but they have been no where
> near as bad as some so-called open source/free software companies out
> there, IMNSHO.  [As an aside: One thing Red Hat has not made me is rich,
> yet I stand by them on principle.  The money is secondary for me (if it
> ever comes ;-)).  I'll make money flippin' burgers if I have to.  And
> I'll still stand by Red Hat, provided they still continue to behave,
> when I'm asking the next guy in line if he wants fries with that.]
>
> --
> -Paul Iadonisi
>  Senior System Administrator
>  Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
>  Ever see a penguin fly?  --  Try Linux.
>  GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets
>
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