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From: Adam Russell <rus20376 at infolaunch.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:49:50 -0500 You start to make a good point but then fall into some more silly claptrap. Having worked with many Indian and Chinese developers I can tell you that virtualy NONE have had some sort of long term interest software. Virtaully ALL of them had their degrees in something else(I recall one strikingy beuatiful Chinese co-worker; she had an undergraduate degree in traditional Chinese medicine), however, they heard about the big bucks to be made in software and either did a post-bac series of courses in software development offered in their home countries or they sometimes even came here and just sort of, well, lied their asses off and had friends at home provide them some BS references. I haven't seen any sign of that myself in industry. Again, this is from a fairly small sampling of workplaces. In college (MIT in the mid 1980's), I did see this, but it had nothing to do with origin or anything. There were plenty of CS majors *of all backgrounds* who were in it because it was the in thing. Usually they didn't actually go into system development or the like (which is what I've mostly done); they went to Wall Street firms to make their fortune. The valid point I thought you were starting to make is that the US doesn't value intellectual achievment like other countries. I believe it is still valued but it is just not the same cause for celebrity. For example, most russians would be able to name several of their famous poets but I doubt an american could do something similar. Unless you consider pop/rap singers to be poets. ;) There does appear to be a strong anti-intellectual streak, coupled with a worship of technology that wouldn't happen without the very same intellectual achievements that are so looked down upon. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk at alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf at uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
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