BLU lists - mailman queue test

[mattg at theworld.com (matt galster)]

I don't know what the settings & inner workings in mailman are, but if an
address fails enough times, it is automajically set no mail, or removed from
the list (I have WIND set to remove, that option is set by the list admin).
I typically get a dozen or so notices a week that mailman has removed a bad
address.  Sometimes they are full mailboxes.  Sometimes they are (now) dead
accounts which had been good.  Sometimes they are fat-fingerings by Fred.
Sometimes the new accounts don't give their addresses properly, as well, I
suspect.

In any case, I don't expect there are more than a dozen bad addresses in
there which are not set to no mail.  Those set to no mail could be worse.
Not sure how mailman handles those guys!

MEG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-admin at blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org]On Behalf Of
> David Kramer
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:15 AM
> To: discuss at blu.org; gaf at blu.org; jabr at blu.org; mattg at TheWorld.com
> Subject: Re: BLU lists - mailman queue test
>
>
> On Friday 28 May 2004 12:44 am, John Abreau wrote:
> > I found that there were 2420 messages in mailman's queue on the BLU
> > server. On the theory that this may be the reason mail isn't getting
> > to the discuss list, I stopped postfix, renamed mailman's qfiles
> > directory and created an empty one, and restarted postfix.
> This message
> > is to test if that was the problem.
>
> Evidence: Ah.  The other day, when I was doing *my* test, I
> tail -f'ed the
> mail log while sending stuff, I kept seeing the same delivery
> attempts over
> and over.
>
> Evidence: When I sent my own mail from my server to all
> wind at blu.org members,
> there were many dozens of failures.
>
> Theory: What is happening is that there are so many failure
> attempts on the
> WIND list  (and maybe others) that are waiting their 4 days
> before removal
> from the queue, that the mail server is being starved so it
> can't get *good*
> emails out fast enough.
>
> Maybe we could copy the mail queue somewhere else and wipe it
> out, then slowly
> (one a minute) inject queue entries back into the live
> directory from the
> backup.
>
> We should also do a validation of email addresses on the list:
> - Remove the WIND list from the aliases table
> - Make a temporary WIND mail account
> - Send a single individual message to each member
> - Cull the failed addresses from the mailing list (many dozens)
> - re-establish the list
>
> --
> DDDD   David Kramer         david at thekramers.net
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