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Rich Braun wrote: > [...] > No, I have no business. I like to post to public forums. I like to talk with > friends. I like to exercise my right to freedom of association, and I want to > be able to do so without Big Brother watching over me the way so many gigantic > corporations eavesdrop on people's desktop PCs. I just spent a few minutes reviewing the SORBS Dynamic User/Host List FAQ (http://dnsbl.sorbs.net/faq/dul.shtml) For frame of reference, here's their take [emphasis mine]: --- begin quote --- It is a matter of debate as to whether a user at home should be running their own mailserver, however, it is the opinion of SORBS that anyone competent should be allowed to run their own mailserver, but all outgoing mail *from dynamic address space* (and in a few cases static space) should be made to flow through their ISP's mailserver. --- end quote --- So they don't seem to object to competently-run servers so much as dynamic IP addressing which reduces accountability (my take anyhow). They also state: --- begin quote --- End Users, you may send submission requests, however please be aware you maybe asked to get your ISP to request the change. --- end quote --- Which I read as: If I don't want the address assigned by my ISP to be blocked, I should ask them to make a request to SORBS. If your ISP permits the running of servers, presumably they could be persuaded to make this request. --- begin quote --- [...] The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) Point of Contact (POC) can request a listing or delisting of any address in his or her space. *The only time this will be refused is when the Netblock information in the RIR or the rDNS indicates clearly the addresses are Dynamic in nature. (eg: 0.1.pool.example.com)* [...] *Anyone else* may request delisting of addreses or netblocks providing reverse DNS (rDNS) is set to indicate static assignment. This is usually done by setting the PTR records to hosts that match the A and MX records for the domain residing there." --- end quote --- They have some *basic* requirements for accountability to avoid flagging of an address. However, SORBS itself does not PREVENT anything, nor does SORBS dictate that email must flow over government- or ISP-monitored servers. It merely indicates that mail is originating from a dynamic address *lacking accountability controls*. WHAT to do with that information is up to the users of SORBS. So a SORBS flag is no more or less an invasion of privacy than noting the country of origin (not all mail originating is Asia is spam!). I don't think the problem is the tool (SORBS) so much as how it's being wielded by heavy-handed organizations to handle spam. As an aside, I do find it a bit contradictory to suspect messages as being spam based on GEOGRAPHIC address of origin, yet decry the sue of NETWORK address of origin for the same purpose. In the ideal world, no one "taint" should result in labelling messages. - Bob
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