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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Kramer wrote: | On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Jerry Feldman wrote: | |>Going back to my war story, the IT people's argument was that it would be |>easier for me to undermine their network One problem I have working in such environments, is the inevitable type of person who tends to be the one weilding root - including corporate types honestly believing all the rubbish they're fed in M$ and non-M$ whitepapers on computer security. |>and that I could change the root password But you'd be larted. The only real problem is lack of audit trail (that's really the only problem in most cases) and that can be fixed by using something like sudo, but see the caveat mentioned below. I prefer allowing people to do their job with as few restrictions as necessary. | ... All of which could have been handled by sudo. With sudo, you can give | mortals the power to run certain commands as root without the root | password. Best of both worlds. I know JABR is big on sudo. ...and dangers of both. With sudo, it's very easy to overlook paths a user can take to get at a shell (e.g. if you allow them to edit a file but don't take in to account the fact that $EDITOR might allow them to open a command shell). It's also easy to ignore this fact and think that sudo will solve everything - so in that sense using sudo introduces an extra - somewhat hidden - danger of general complacency. | Since I am both Sysadmin and Power User at home, what I do is I have a | separate login window on a separate vitrual window for root, and it has a | red tinted background. I consider this acceptable risk because I do | regular backups, though. We had one colo box where root was disabled, everything went via sudo and it tried to stop people doing stuff like "sudo su". It becomes completely unworkable and you end up pointing out that, while sudo works great in almost all cases, sometimes you do need a root shell :-). Jon. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB/r2XeTyyexZHHxERAhycAJ9VyIAWdn55uly663f+w7miIRuPOQCgiStD 71R3F2iegq8z3wPa5IvB6OQ= =nPoz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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