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On Tuesday 01 February 2005 08:36, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Jerry Feldman writes: > > Does the business want its programmers to spend > > time installing and maintaining software? > > OTOH, does a business want its programmers twiddling their thumbs > waiting for the IT staff to maintain and install software? This is absolutely true. I come from an environment where the engineers install and maintain their own systems. At Raytheon, in general, engineers were not given root access to their workstations, and HP-UX was installed through an ignite server. I do happen to agree with you 100%, but I once worked in IT so I can try to espouse the IT point of view. > There could be any number of reasons for this situation: overworked > IT staff, the IT staff might not know how to install and maintain the > software, the IT staff might not be familiar with the programmer's > needs. Etc. In most cases, they don't want an accountant or manager to take the time to fool with the system. In a development environment, you've got people who can maintain their systems effectively. Additionally, corporate wants its networks protected, so they don't want someone installing some virus-laden software they downloaded from the net. The IT people want the systems to be in a known state so they can support them, or another point of view is that they don't have to support a lot of different stuff. > I'm not trying to start a flamewar (and this subject has caused > flamewars in the past). This is just the other side of the coin. I agree here. There is no real answer. I take the approach that in general, privileges are not granted, but that certain groups or individuals should be given privs. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf at blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
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