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On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 03:38:59PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 May 2006 08:27:16, Ward Vandewege <ward at pong.be> said: > > > Now get this: the HP bios checks the pci id of the mini-pci card, > > and *REFUSES TO BOOT* if you don't have an HP-branded card in > > there. It says 'illegal mini-pci card detected' or something along > > those lines. > > It's possible to reprogram the BIOS to contain different allowed PCI > IDs, or to disable the check completely. > > For ThinkPads: > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/thinkpad/wireless.html > > For HPs: > http://www.richud.com/HP-Pavilion-104-Bios-Fix/ Yeah, I think my colleague saw those. He said that it won't work for the NX6125, because there seems to be a BIOS checksum that prevents 'tampering' like this. He did find those pci ids in the bios rom though. > This behaviour isn't limited to IBM and HP; now Intel ipw3945 chipset > wireless cards require a binary userspace daemon (running as root!) to > monitor the channel/power output of the card, again to comply with the > FCC. ! Can you say 'security vulnerability'? Great. Closed-source crap running as root.... > A userspace daemon is slightly less obnoxious than using a > proprietary kernel module, since it will be easy to reverse-engineer the > way that the userspace daemon talks to the (open-source) kernel module > and use an open-source driver instead. Quite. > > Nonsense about FCC requirements is just that - the third-party > > cards that are sold (e.g. the MSI one) _are FCC approved_. And if > > Dell can get away with not DRM'ing their machines, why on earth can > > HP and IBM not do this? > > Given that now Intel are involved too, I do at least believe that each > of the companies are doing what their lawyers believe they need to. I'm sorry, I still don't get it. Does that mean that HP and IBM have more conservative lawyers than Dell does? And to be honest Intel is hardly a reference for being a 'nice guy'. Their whole EFI thing is *designed* to enforce DRM in the bios. Ever looked into the EFI 'sandbox' model? That's what that is for - DRM. > I don't think this is a case of lock-in as you're describing it to be. So.... if that is the case, why will the NX6125 take the HP-branded Intel card, but NOT the non-HP branded Intel card? Exact same card, different pci id, different price (+$40). The firmware is _identical_, we verified that with md5sum. > > Besides; ndiswrapper is a workaround. Ralink releases GPL'd > > drivers. They work. Their hardware works. It's cheap. > > I still have a treasured old silver Orinoco PC card lying around in case > this situation gets any worse. :) I just got a new MSI (ralink) mini-pci card off newegg ($20) to replace the piece of broadcom/ndiswrapper crap in my 2-year-old Dell. It took it happily, no BIOS locks here. I'm voting with my $. It's a shame, really. I'm in the market for a new laptop - or will be in the next 6 months or so. The NX6125 looked like the perfect candidate - AMD64, cheap, nice specs, great screen resolution. But I'm not going to buy it. Not with DRM in the bios. Ward. -- Pong.be -( "Free Software as in free speech, not free beer. Think )- Virtual hosting -( of freedom, not price." -- Richard Stallman )- http://pong.be -( )- GnuPG public key: http://gpg.dtype.org
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