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mark, i've kind of followed the LAMP. it's what i heard others talk about. i have no experience with PostgreSQL. it may be a zillion times better, i don't know. but i do know what MySQL is. i've used on windos an linux. easy to install, easy to generally understand to a database noob. the command line isn't difficult and i'm not a command line junky. there's also cross platform GUIs that work and again are easy to understand. i've been able to manipulate several million row tables on a regular pc once i got the indexes right. their docs are pretty good and their mailing list is friendly and helpful. it was really an enjoyable experience to use MySQL and made me look sharp infront of the boss. i can't refute anything you've said as i'm no guru, but on a subjective level - with smaller databases MySQL works great. i also have a couple of websites that use MySQL and access them with phpmyadmin, which is also easy to use and works. now would i have problems if i had several million hits a day? i don't know, i hope to find out! if PostgreSQL fit's my needs, i'll jump ship. but for now MySQL is fine. so my point is MySQL can be a good app for some people some of the time. "I don't want to start a flame war..." yes u do. it might be fun! "I don't like the organization and I don't like the software. I don't like the bogus benchmarks they use." that's interesting. i don't like cheating. this would greatly lower my opinion of them if true. do you have examples? "Almost every argument about using MySQL despite its suckage are the same arguments for using Windows. They are false and easily refuted." oh god, don't compare it to M$. MySQL is free. M$ is a ~$150 virus catcher. "If a program chooses to only use MySQL, I can only assume the developers are clueless about databases in general and that does not bode well for the quality of their code." are you saying we can not find one program that uses only MySQL that doesn't have sucky code? i'm not fully qualified to comment on the quality of other's code but this seems unlikely. maybe somebody closer to your level of ability will speak up. - eric c. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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