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(Sorry, I tried to send this earlier but was called away to a meeting during which time my webmail session expired. I apologize if my comments are now duplicates or no longer relevant to this discussion.): When I first switched to Gentoo, I couldn't get my printer working forever. I had all the cups stuff installed I could think of, extra ghostscript libs, etc. Turns out, I needed the foomatic packages (duh), but there were no dependencies linking cups to foomatic for some reason, so despite the printer driver indicating that everything was A-OK, I never saw a printed page until my foomatics were installed. Anyway, I'm not quite sure how to respond to the original poster...I'll try and take a few of them on: 1) [in response to "if freeware can't win the day...what hope is there for the individual?]: What's the relation here between freeware and the individual? An individual can create non-free software, and large corporations can create free software...and vice versa. But I'm mostly confused about the statement 'win the day'. How do you measure a 'win'? Many magazines and newspapers will discuss success in terms of dollars are cents, and in that regard, it would be difficult to post a free product as a 'winner'. To take the most obvious example, hasn't Apache\'s httpd "won the day?" It's one of the most successful free projects ever; in my opinion it's as successful as any project can get. Again, has nothing to do with dollars and cents, and doesn't have to do with 'the individual'. In fact, many argue that open source's success is due to the fact that there are *more* eyes on the code. The purpose is collaboration, not the triumph of the individual. 2. [in response to "linux lacks bells and whistles"]: Printer drivers are 'bells and whistles?' Let's call it like it is: if you can't print from your OS, you have a big problem. You will certainly not be replacing your workstation from whatever you have that's working to something that doesn't allow basic tasks. However, in regards to 'bells and whistles', you don't need to look much further than Beryl to see that Linux *has* bells and whistles. They\'re relatively new, and therefore not necessarily trivial to get working, but that will come. -Danny Quoting Derek Atkins <warlord-DPNOqEs/LNQ at public.gmane.org>: > Al Wheeler <alfred_j_wheeler-H+0wwilmMs3R7s880joybQ at public.gmane.org> writes: > >> 2. Linux lacks so very many of the bells and whistles of MS Windows, >> especially printer drivers, but more and more these days the so called >> interactive technology drivers. The biggest challenge(s) facing Linux >> remains ease of deployment and use. > > What do you mean? I've never had a problem configuring Linux to > use any printer I've ever tried. > > -derek > > -- > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory > Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) > URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH > warlord-DPNOqEs/LNQ at public.gmane.org PGP key available > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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