RE: Time Warner cable

["Scott R. Ehrlich" <user=81@nabble.blu.org>]

 On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Boland, John wrote: 

> how can nat be detected? 
> would you have to inspect the packet contents? 

I would gather multiple MAC addresses coming from a single IP? 

Or, if snmp community string is set to "public", they can likely inspect 
your system.  Happened to me once on RCN when I was on the phone with 
support.  Taught me to change my snmp string. 

Scott 

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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf 
> Of Matthew Gillen 
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:30 AM 
> To: Tom Haskins-Vaughan 
> Cc: [hidden email] 
> Subject: Re: Time Warner cable 
> 
> Tom Haskins-Vaughan wrote: 
>> Hi, I'm moving to a new house in Great Barrington next week and I'm 
>> trying to work out which internet provider to use. Time Warner is the 
>> cable provider and the price seems acceptable (more than I'd like to 
>> pay but comparable to Verizon DSL) but I came across this in their 
> FAQs: 
>> 
>> Q: Can I have more than one computer connected to the Road Runner 
> modem? 
>> A: Yes. However, if you wish to use multiple computers simultaneously 
>> with the Road Runner service, you will be assessed a monthly fee for 
>> each additional computer. 
>> 
>> So, my question's are: 
>> 
>> How will they know if I use more than one computer? 
> 
> If more than one concurrent dhcp lease is attempted from your modem. 
> There are supposedly ways to detect when NAT is being done, but they 
> almost certainly don't use them (and even if they did, it's not wise to 
> piss off the technically proficient customers, since they will be the 
> loudest word-of-mouth voices, for good or bad). 
> 
>> What is a computer? Does my SlimDevices Squeezebox count? 
> 
> Probably anything that needs an IP address.  I haven't read TW's EULA 
> though. 
> 
>> Is this fair? 
> 
> If you can set up a NAT box, or have a little router that can do NAT, 
> you should be fine to just pay for one IP address, and do your own DHCP 
> on your internal net.  Just don't have a dhcp server that will serve 
> addresses out the wrong line (ie the one connected to the modem) or they 
> get pretty mad at you. 
> 
> Matt 
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