Re: aptitude full-upgrade is superior, or not?

["Jay Kramer" <user=102@nabble.blu.org>]

 I have not been using aptitude -dist-upgrade for while.  When I was using it 
with Debian, it did not seem to me to be fully upgrading the system. 
Recently, I have been using the Ubuntu update feature to install new 
versions.  Is this update feature the same as issuing aptitude full-upgrade? 
Jay 

On Dec 8, 2007 6:09 PM, Mick Timony <[hidden email]> wrote: 

> On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 14:18 -0800, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: 
> > I have been using aptitude dist-upgrade (now full-upgrade) for many 
> > years, and have not experienced any major issues.  What you have to 
> > keep in mind is that the safe-upgrade (nee plain 'upgrade') will not 
> > remove packages, ever!  However, this can actually cause issues when 
> > you *DO* keep moving from revision to revision where package names 
> > change and/or the become obsoleted or removed.  Thus, if you always 
> > use full-upgrade, you should not experience any issues.  In the 
> > unlikely event that something large will be removed accidentally, and 
> > this have never happened to me, then there lies the issue. 
> 
> I almost totally agree. I was under the impression that most users 
> should use safe-upgrade and that dist-upgrade was for upgrading beween 
> distro releases? 
> 
> > However, I 
> > have never seen it happen in almost four years of doing so even while 
> > running Alpha releases of Ubuntu (as I am right now)... 
> Damn, I must be an old foggy! I've never, never not had problems! ;) 
> 
> Then that may be down to the quality of the packages that Ubuntu 
> creates. Over the years I've had issues with circular dependencies, or 
> packages that won't install as newer packages they depend on haven't 
> been uploaded yet (this is on Debian Sid). I've had problem with Ubuntu 
> in the past, so on my Ubunut laptop where I want suspend/resume to work 
> all the time I've stopped using development versions of Ubuntu. 
> > 
> > root@khermans-laptop:~# aptitude --version 
> > aptitude 0.4.9 compiled at Nov 27 2007 12:14:49 
> > Compiler: g++ 4.2.3 20071123 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.2.2-3ubuntu4) 
> > 
> > NCurses version: 5.6 
> > libsigc++ version: 2.0.17 
> 
> mtimony@debian:~$ aptitude --version 
> aptitude 0.4.6.1 compiled at Sep 30 2007 11:05:56 
> Compiler: g++ 4.2.1 (Debian 4.2.1-5) 
> 
> NCurses version: 5.6 
> libsigc++ version: 2.0.17 
> 
> 
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