Re: Anti-recommendation: Comcast.

["Matt Shields-5" <user=70@nabble.blu.org>]

 On Jan 23, 2008 6:42 PM, Scott Ehrlich <[hidden email]> wrote: 
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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote: 
> 
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:30:42 -0500 
> > "Matt Shields" <[hidden email]> wrote: 
> > 
> >> I understand Comcast's decision, because they want to stop the flood 
> >> of spam coming from home networks.  But for someone like myself which 
> >> has valid servers on the internet and a valid reason for allowing 
> >> outbound connecting to port 25, and I control what comes in and out of 
> >> them, then I am responsible for stopping spam or my upstream provider 
> >> will shut me off.  If Comcast is going to require my customer's use 
> >> Comcast's outbound smtp servers, then that doesn't help me control 
> >> what type of customers are on my servers.  In fact it means I can't 
> >> use Domain Keys or SPF for my customers. 
> > 
> > I certainly don't like them blocking port 25, but they are not 
> > concerned with those of us who have the skills and desire to set up an 
> > MTA that does not relay. The problem is the vast majority of people who 
> > don't have a clue. 
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> > Jerry Feldman <[hidden email]> 
> > Boston Linux and Unix 
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> 
> Someone please humor me - I got hooked up to Comcast's residential 
> Internet service 8 years ago and lost my terms of service agreement.  If 
> someone here actually has a copy of what you signed to agree to abide by, 
> I'd like to see what their ToS actually says with respect to this whole 
> discussion of servers, blocked ports, etc. 
> 
> It would also be interesting to see if the wording is the same for 
> everyoone who can track down their ToS, or if it differs over time (ToS 
> from 10 years ago may be different from 5 years ago to 2 years ago to 2 
> weeks ago), or has it remained consistent? 
> 
> If some people are talking about unfair, lawsuits, etc, do the ToS say, 
> upfront "We, Comcast, can and may do this and that; you, customer, cannot 
> do this and that"  and you signed in agreement?  If so, let's see where 
> the specifics/differences are.  If they say they can scan and/or block 
> ports at any time, you agreed to it.  If they say you may not run any 
> servers - doing so violates your service and they can disconnect you, you 
> agreed to it.