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Well, so far, my search for a provider who can actually do IMAP and a few other basics has been a disappointment. I should think, given all the time that has passed since IMAP has been around, plus all the great open source projects which support it, someone would have put together a package that just works. My search was predicated on the thinking that I don't and won't have time to keep our in-house mail system running. Should something break, it's too time consuming and costly to deal with it. Yet, it works well and there are few complaints. Now I am reconsidering. The mediocrity I've dipped my toes into so far reminds me of Senator Mike Gravel's answer to a question about why he's running for President when he had stated that he wasn't really serious: "That's right, I said that. But then I appeared in debates with the rest of these people and realized I was wrong. You know, when I first got to the Senate I was asking myself 'How the hell did I ever get here?!' Then after a few months I began to wonder 'how the hell the REST of them got here'!" So after a week of looking at the offerings and trying a few, I wonder how any of them actually manage to stay in business. Or maybe I'm just unlucky. The list recommended by Ben and run by Nancy McGough is very comprehensive but many of the entries are old and the companies are (perhaps mercifully) gone. Of those I have reviewed several and found one that purported to have the combination of features needed. They set me up with a trial, but unfortunately their effort assumed (perhaps somewhat correctly) that I knew what I was doing or could figure it out easily. So for all the options available in establishing an IMAP account in Thunderbird, all I got from them was a server name and login. Fortunately, setting the IMAP server path to / didn't reveal the server's root directory (that's another story!). I tried it... just had to know. After working through this and finding their IMAP to be snappy, but sparse, I checked their webmail. The web-based GUI looked like it had not yet graduated from W3 school and in fact may have been denied admission. A rather slow email go-round between (likely) Punjab and Boston revealed a hidden URL which gave a much nicer interface with the features I wanted: a calendar, notes, tasks, and of course mail. Boom. Too bad those "division by zero" errors ruined the appearance of the otherwise pretty display. I write software in C, and know my way around PHP and other stuff as a result. I have suffered early casualties of war, and most of them have fortunately and perhaps by luck been limited to non-critical, non-public exposure. We code, we learn, we grow (and then later we die). So when a page of errors on a public server reveals full directory paths to the offending file, I stop and think a-la Mike Gravel, "how the hell did any of these developers manage to land jobs writing this stuff?" error_reporting(0); is lesson 1 in php. Trapping /0 errors might be close to #2. The experience amplified concern: is the basic data integrity and critical privacy of email also handled this way as well? Yikes! There. I've ranted and vented. Now I feel better about keeping mail running on our own server. Anyone interested in helping us maintain it? Maybe the solution is to just contract with someone to take care of it and some other stuff on our two servers. The non-disclosure will, of course, prevent revealing the stupid mistakes that I've made!! /m -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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