virtualizing...

[adler-wRvlPVLobi1/31tCrMuHxg at public.gmane.org (Stephen Adler)]

I do the same thing, run gnome, then on top of gnome/linux I run VMWare, 
it boots into windows, then
I run VMWare/windows client in full screen mode. The problem is that the 
sound quality in VMWare is
very poor due to the real time clock implementation running within 
VMWare, so if I try to run any kind
of multi-media application I get poor results. Thus I want to get one 
level closer to the hardware through
full virtualization and hopefully have good multi-media on both Linux 
and Windows. The ideal setup
would be one in which I can run my full desktop on gnome/Linux and then 
switch over to Windows and
then run a full GL video game....

ref wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 12:40 -0500, John Abreau wrote:
>   
>> You can always run a second X session on another console, and
>> run the Windows guest expanded to full-screen within that.
>> Something like
>>
>>     startx /usr/bin/twm -- :1
>>
>> Then toggle between them with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8.
>> If you don't specify an alternate startup item like twm, then
>> gnome will notice that you're already running a gnome session,
>> and exit from the :1 session immediately.
>>
>>     
> I do this a lot with VMware. Once gnome boots up and I ahve my desktop,
> I open vmware. When XP boots, I run it full screen. Then to get back to
> Gnome I hit trl-AltF7, and to get to windows I need o use Ctrl-Alt-F8.
> It really is rather nifty for me as I do a lot of web development, and
> need to see what output looks like on windows systems, but do all my
> work in Linux (Currently Ubuntu 8.10, which so far is great)
>
> I have also added ano0ther logged on user, and then had my desktop on
> CA-F7, Windows on CA-f8, and my g/f's desktop on CA-F9
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>   
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Stephen Adler <adler-wRvlPVLobi1/31tCrMuHxg at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>     
>>> Thanks Bill,
>>>
>>> My home system is a core 2 quad Q9550. I believe it has the features
>>> needed to support full virtualization. (vmx)
>>>
>>> The bit which puzzles me, is how do the virtual machine share the
>>> graphics adapter? Is there some kind of virtual adaptor which which
>>> multiplexes down to the physical adapter? Or are the virtual systems
>>> running in a console-less mode and direct their output to some virtual
>>> serial port?
>>>
>>> Bill Bogstad wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Stephen Adler <adler-wRvlPVLobi1/31tCrMuHxg at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking I may take on virtualization as my holiday hobby. But
>>>>> before I do, I was wondering if the following concept actually applies
>>>>> to the linux zen kernels.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I assume you actually mean Xen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Can I have linux and windows running virtually, on my desktop, and
>>>>> through some hot key, switch between then, console and all? In other
>>>>> words, say I'm running Linux in full desktop mode, with gnome running
>>>>> and icons on my desktop splashed across my dual monitor setup. Then by
>>>>> typing I dunno F12 or what ever, it switches to a windows desktop, where
>>>>> windows explorer now controls my dual monitor desktop and windows icons
>>>>> are splashed cross my dual monitor setup?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> It depends.  Since Microsoft doesn't support Xen paravirtualization,
>>>> you have to use full virtualization.
>>>> Xen only supports this on CPUs which have some hardware support for
>>>> virtualization.
>>>> Not all AMD or Intel CPUs do.  See this random  web link for some more
>>>> info on this subject:
>>>>
>>>> http://bobcares.com/index.php/blog/?p=121
>>>>
>>>> Bottom Line:  On the wrong CPU you can't use Xen at all to run Windows...
>>>>
>>>> Bill Bogstad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
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