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I certainly can understand and appreciate some proprietary software,=20 probably because I earn my money producing it. I used to have a real=20 problem with Microsoft when they used to sell DOS, and the early=20 versions of Windows were just plain terrible. I have no problem with=20 Microsoft wanting to sell Windows and other products. It is the=20 monopolistic practices they use in the marketplace. IBM used similar=20 tactics in the 60s and 70s with their mainframes. While the iPhone is a=20 great device, apparently Apple is taking a lot of heat because of its=20 poor quality. If I buy a software product, it belongs to me, and I=20 expect to use it in a way I see fit. If I buy a car, there is nothing in = my agreement with the auto manufacturer stating where and how I can use=20 the vehicle. If I abuse it, I may not be able to get warranty service,=20 but if I want to drive it off a cliff, the manufacturer has no=20 restrictions. (The government might not like it). IBM used to give away their operating systems, but their hardware would=20 have some undocumented registers that the OS could take advantage of,=20 requiring the companies that built 360 clones would have some difficulty.= Basically, this is my thoughts on software: 1. Operating systems and utilities are what is needed to make a computer = work. IMHO, it should be free. But I have no problem with companies who=20 want to sell support contracts. 2. Useful products, such as word processors, email programs don't need=20 to be free, but I would expect a certain amount of quality and support=20 if you pay for a product. While I have not looked at Sun's pricing, for=20 Star Office, I think their model of providing a proprietary, supported=20 product for the enterprise, and supporting a FOSS product (such as=20 OpenOffice) looks like a decent model. Quite a while Eudora withdrew=20 their paid-for product, and provided a "sponsored" model of their fully=20 featured product with an open source version (based on Thunderbird) now=20 in beta. But, I think we have pretty much shown that the OpenSource model is not=20 only economically viable, but also can produce better products. On the=20 other hand, a purely community based product can have some downsides,=20 such as lack of continuity. Let's say we have an open source product=20 that was supported by a developer, but the developer loses interest, and = no one else steps up to the plate. It does not mean the product isn't=20 good or it doesn't have a good user base, it just means that the initial = development community did not take enough time to plan for long term=20 support. On 11/17/2008 06:15 PM, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > But the enderhanded BS that goes into today's EULA is nuts -- I agree w= ith > both of you. I have in my possession a Thinkpad that I purchased with > Windows XP and a broken Dell laptop my wife purchased with Windows XP. = Right > now I'm running "pirated" Windows XP on my home-built "media center" > computer and in a virtual machine under Ubuntu on the Thinkpad. I consi= der > myself fully licensed and it's actually a point of pride that after bei= ng > both FOSS-naive and money-poor in college I'm completely legit with med= ia > and software -- as far as my definition of 'legit' goes. > > Likewise, the mere act of liberating iTunes purchases from their DRM (s= ee > 'hymn') should be considered perfectly legitimate Fair Use. What you do= > after you liberate them is between you and your conscience and the vend= or. > > =20 --=20 Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org> Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846
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