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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:05:44 -0400 From: Tom Metro <tmetro-blu-5a1Jt6qxUNc at public.gmane.org> Richard Pieri wrote: > Tom Metro wrote: >> Care to share some numbers? > > A new 17" MBP, 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, 500GB disk: about $2500. > > A new Dell Precision M6400, 17", 2.93GHz Core 2 Duo (closest match), > 320GB disk (largest available): about $2500. One of the things that makes the PC vs. Mac comparison less apples-to-apples is that there is a limited selection of Macs, so if you need the RAM, disk, and display, but don't have a justifications for a 2.93 GHz CPU (which is obviously way outside the "sweet spot" for cost effective), then you may find the Mac comparatively overpriced. A search on NewEgg doesn't even show any models with a 2.93 GHz CPU, yet they have two 2.66 GHz models that meet all the other specs you listed for $1200 ~ $1300: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2034940032+1039323203+103980232+1041010743+104062589+1039446175&QksAutoSuggestion=&Configurator=&Subcategory=32&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc= If the other tangibles and intangibles that come with the Mac don't matter to you, can you justify paying $1200 for a 0.27 GHz CPU increase? (What else does that $1200 buy you that is of practical value to a typical usr? Of course typical users don't pay over $1000 for laptops these days, so you might need to replace "typical" with "power.") Both of these are considerably lower resolution than WUXGA (one is "WXGA+" and one is 1600x900 -- quite a bit less than 1920x1200). However, this one hast *most* impressive specs for $1600: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152112 Core 2 Quad 2GHz 4 GB RAM 320 GB 7200 RPM drive BD combo optical ATI Radeon HD4850 w/512 MB 17" WUXGA Dan Ritter wrote: > Of course, if you don't tie your life to your fragile laptop, > you may discover that a $400 one serves pretty well. After two > years... Somewhat off topic, but I agree. For the typical user, they're better off buying a desktop or laptop that falls within the "sweet spot" of the pricing range, and planning on replacing it every 2 to 3 years. After about 3 years, they usually end up with a faster machine for the same or less money than the person who overbought at the high-end to start with. This is pretty much just a restatement of Moore's law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law And that's why I like buying something where it's easy to replace components, particularly the hard drive -- storage needs are always increasing. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A at public.gmane.org> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf-BtI67efEdsDk1uMJSBkQmQ at public.gmane.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
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