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Isn't this what people are up against to a degree though in terms of really creating applications though? I've been writing applications for a couple of years, and whether it's been a Python front end that talks to some low-level C code or, for example with the iPhone, Objective-C has a runtime and so you write your algorithms - the bottlenecks - in C and the UI functionality is in Objective-C. More and more frequently I'm using higher level scripting languages such as Python, Ruby, or Objective-C for the UI, but I never get away from old fashioned C code because I have that excellent combination of control and performance. I'm not trying to take sides, but I just see more and more often, especially on mobile devices, you need access to the device but you don't have to be tied to C for a laborious front-end. I actually enjoy being able to get control with my C code but then once I'm done with that portion of the code I can reuse a framework for the interface. Anyway, just my thoughts... - Jared ________________________________ From: David Kramer <david-8uUts6sDVDvs2Lz0fTdYFQ at public.gmane.org> To: discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 7:47:00 AM Subject: Re: Go (language) Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 11/22/2009 09:27 PM, David Kramer wrote: >> I like C++, but cross-platform is very important to me, and the C++ >> standard doesn't cover enough of what's needed for a real app, which is >> why I spend most of my time in Java or Perl or PHP. Most of what's >> missing is platform/OS independent IO. >> > Please elaborate on this. I have done much cross platform work on C and > C++. Most of the platform dependencies are not so much language, but in > functions and procedures that are not part of the C or C++ standards. Uhm, that's what I said. You can't write a portable C or C++ program with a GUI, or a database, or a web service, etc without involving (usually that means buying) third-party libraries. Java offers other things, like a way of determining the running environment's text file line endings systematically, locale information like time zone and DST rules, etc. That doesn't mean C and C++ aren't important or useful for a lot of things, but (for me) not as full applications.
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