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Reminder -- RAID 5 is not your friend
- Subject: Reminder -- RAID 5 is not your friend
- From: gmongardi-cGmSLFmkI3Y at public.gmane.org (Grant M)
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:53:54 -0500
- In-reply-to: <20100311042755.GO14999-mzpnVDyJpH4k7aNtvndDlA@public.gmane.org>
- References: <20100311042755.GO14999@tao.merseine.nu>
Dan Ritter wrote: > RAID 5 is not your friend. It depends. Most current systems will do RAID6 now, so it's probably moot. Anyhow, Read on... > A server with a mirrored setup for system disks and a RAID 5 for > storage reported a disk gone bad in the storage system. OK, the > alert is received, and we plan to replace the disk in the > morning. > > Before we can get around to it, another disk in the storage > system also dies. Poof. Typically, this is caused by the Spare disk that the system rebuilds on having bad blocks. The system starts to rebuild on the Spare, encounters a bad block and the rebuild dies. It seems this is typical of lower-end SATA Raids. Many enterprise-level hardware raid controllers with SATA will allow you to schedule 'bad-block scrubs'. What this does is during that scheduled time, the controller will go through the system and scan each disk in the system for potentially bad blocks, including the Spare. This helps ensure that the type of failure described above is avoided. For obvious reasons it can't be eliminated altogether, but minimizes the likelihood of it happening, and makes RAID 5 that much more reliable on SATA. However I do recommend at least RAID 6 on SATA. Rant: this sort of config likely isn't possible with the vendor embedded raid controllers that come with typical HP/Dell/IBM server hardware. In reality I would never recommend using those for anything more than mirroring internal disks. Enterprise storage for critical data needs to be purpose built hardware that you spend more for than you spent on your server (magnitudes more). To the best of my knowledge, Buffalo, Netgear, and PlaySkool don't make enterprise-level raid hardware. If you're hacking together some white-box homemade solution, or buying something with a name you've only ever seen in consumer-level products, you're building a tree fort, and you should expect tree fort level results. Assess how much you're going to lose in productivity per hour that this device is inaccessible, and then evaluate how much it's worth to NOT have that happen. Grant M. -- Grant Mongardi Senior Systems Engineer NAPC gmongardi-cGmSLFmkI3Y at public.gmane.org http://www.napc.com/ blog.napc.com 781.894.3114 phone 781.894.3997 fax NAPC | technology matters
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