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Is the command line the only way to free software?
- Subject: Is the command line the only way to free software?
- From: gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org (Jerry Feldman)
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:24:24 -0400
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Digital not only used X on its Ultrix and later Unix systems, it also used X on VMS. Much of the contributory work was done by people at Digital. I worked at Cadmus computer in the mid-80s, when we developed our own windowing system based on the Apple Mac, which the company actually sold to Apple. One of the real beauties of X is that it is not tightly bound to the OS. Unix and Linux work perfectly fine without a GUI. On 03/17/2010 02:09 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org> wrote: > =20 >> And, if I recall, the X Window system itself predates Microsoft Window= s, >> although it was not free back in the 1980s. >> =20 > Just to be pedantic (and spending some time on Wikipedia)... > > Actually, Windows 1.0 was released in 1985 which is after the first X > windows release in 1984; but before the first X11 release > in 1987. Of course, nobody paid much attention to Windows until 3.0 > in 1990. The Apple Lisa was first available in 1983 with > the MacOS coming out in 1984. So basically everybody had a windowing > system by the mid-80s, the difference is that nobody used Microsoft's > version for another 5 years. > > Also, the X Window system was always free. Unfortunately, it was > released under the MIT license (similar to the BSD license) which did > not require recipients to make changes to the source code available to > others. The result was every workstation vendor made their own > private changes and you rarely had access to the source code for what > was actually shipped to you. If you had low end graphics from Sun > (apparently the hardware of choice at MIT), you could compile a > completely functional X Window system yourself. High end graphics or > non-Sun and you usually had to use the vendor's X server. Or if you > wanted to use Sun's SunView libraries/applications because they > weren't actually written to the X protocol and you had to use Sun's X > server which supported both. > > Bill Bogstad > > =20 --=20 Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org> Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846
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