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- From: mark-OGhnF3Lt4opAfugRpC6u6w at public.gmane.org (Mark J Dulcey)
- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:48:35 -0400
- In-reply-to: <4BC34EE6.4010606-GqRSzq0LZOzYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
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On 4/12/2010 12:48 PM, Mark Komarinski wrote: > > Motherboard manufacturers do this too with their PCBs. You can clearly > see spots where chips belong but they aren't there. Manufacturers > probably have the volume to have separate SMT lines and skip some > parts. Is that dishonest as well? That's a bit different from the example he cited earlier because the parts actually aren't there, but are omitted to reduce manufacturing costs. The motherboard that lacks the FireWire chip or the USB 3.0 chip probably does costs a few dollars less to make. Another tricky case is what NVidia and AMD (and likely some other companies) do with chips. For example, a 9800GT and a 9800GTX have exactly the same GPU, but the version on the 9800GT only has 112 of the 128 computing units enabled. (The same logic applies to newer NVidia product lines, I just happen to know the numbers for that one.) An AMD Phenom II X3 CPU actually contains four cores but one is turned off. (AMD may eventually produce X3 parts that use a different mask and don't contain a fourth core at all but to the best of my knowledge all the current ones are as I describe.) There are unauthorized third-party programs for both that can re-enable the parts of the chip that have been turned off. But in these cases, the disabled parts of the chip may have been turned off for a reason. They don't work at all, they work but fail under some operating conditions such as extreme temperature, or the chip overall fails to meet its power consumption and thermal specs if all the cores are enabled. Then again, they may be perfect chips that the company is selling off as the less capable versions because they don't have enough of the not-fully-functional parts to meet demand at the reduced price. So... is your 3-core CPU an honest sale if the fourth core is defective but a ripoff if the fourth core works?
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