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Unfortunately I don't have an answer, but there are a couple of clues. First, centerforgastricbypass.com is legit (as far as it has a web site and a mailman list, but it is not listed with the BBB). While it does appear that they do have a mailman list, the list name, highereducation_centerforgastricbypass.com does not appear to be valid. But there are a couple of clues. First: Received: from JSIBUREXCH1.jsi.jc.com ([10.129.8.206]) by JSIBUREXCH1.jsi.jc.com ([10.129.8.206]) with mapi; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:36:14 Second: (envelope-from <JPOTTER-ZRT4fz0Bk4bg0w+fcA3fQEEOCMrvLtNR at public.gmane.org>) But neither of those explains how this gets to Kathy: Received: from mail.phi.elinuxservers.com (mail.phi.elinuxservers.com [72.34.56.205]) by smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0F9F728 for <kathy-q4gzWf+mIc+ffZTbxLCQjg at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:36:47 -0400 (EDT) I'm wondering if the entire message header itself is forged at jc.com. On 09/24/2010 10:47 AM, scottmarydavidsam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org wrote: > Sorry if this is a bit off topic but you guys and ladies seem to have a= > thorough understanding of SMTP rules, I'm hoping you can help me learn.= =2E. > > One of our users ("kathy" in the header below) has received about 30 > messages from other people trying to unsubscribe from a mailing list ca= lled > centerforgastricbypass.com. This domain has nothing to do with our comp= any > and she is in no way associated with that organization. I could block t= he > messages at our gateway but I'm curious how this could be happening, th= ere > is no indication in the message that it's going to her until you look a= t the > header (see below). > > I used the Sam Spade email header parser (a VERY cool tool by the way) = and I > can see where the suspicious activity begins as well as her address but= it's > not clear to me how that can be hidden in the message itself. I know yo= u can > hide the sender but I wasn't aware that you can hide the destination > address. Here's what I'm looking for: > > 1) Any ideas on how the destination email address can be hidden so that= you > can't see it outside of the header, but it routes properly? > 2) Suggestions on how to stop this aside from simply blocking the domai= n? > > Thanks in advance. > Scott > > Note, I've replaced the following information in the header: > The name of my company replaced with MYCOMPANY > The IP address of my external smtp server replaced with 10.0.0.0 > My server names have been changed to smtpserver, spamscanner and email.= > Internally, my mail goes from the Internet to "smtpserver" (SuSE linux > running Postfix, ClamAV and SpamAssassin IP=3D10.0.0.0), then to "spams= canner" > (Barracuda Spam Firewall IP=3D10.6.10.2), then to "email" (MS Exchange = mailbox > server). > Sorry for all the obfuscation but I'm the paranoid, cynical one. > > ****HEADER START**** > Received: from spamscanner.MYCOMPANY.com (10.6.10.2) by email.MYCOMPANY= =2Ecom > (10.6.10.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Fri, 24 Sep 2010= > 09:36:52 -0400 > X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1285335409-0777d7050001-zFyv9T > Received: from smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com (smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com[10.0.= 0.0]) > by spamscanner.MYCOMPANY.com with ESMTP id 1kpAEwhySQxtIYRM for > <kathy-q4gzWf+mIc+ffZTbxLCQjg at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:36:49 -0400 (EDT) > X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: > highereducation-bounces-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 10.0.0.0 > X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at MYCOMPANY.com > Received: from smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com ([127.0.0.1]) by > smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com > (smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) wi= th > ESMTP id > sS21p+3XsK7X for <kathy-q4gzWf+mIc+ffZTbxLCQjg at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:36:49 -= 0400 > (EDT) > Received: by smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) i= d > EE558F72B; > Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:36:48 -0400 (EDT) > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on > smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com > X-Barracuda-BWL-IP: nil > X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: nil > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=3D0.0 required=3D5.0 tests=3Dnone autolearn=3D= disabled > version=3D3.1.8 > Received: from mail.phi.elinuxservers.com (mail.phi.elinuxservers.com > [72.34.56.205]) by smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id= > 9B0F9F728 > for <kathy-q4gzWf+mIc+ffZTbxLCQjg at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:36:47 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37827 helo=3Dphi.elinuxservers.co= m) > by > phi.elinuxservers.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from > <highereducation-bounces-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org>) id > 1Oz8Rz-00046I-AE; > Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:36:31 -0700 > X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 72.34.56.205 > Received: from [65.55.88.15] (port=3D46782 helo=3DTX2EHSOBE010.bigfish.= com) > by > phi.elinuxservers.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from <JPOTTER-ZRT4fz0Bk4bg0w+fcA3fQEEOCMrvLtNR at public.gmane.org>) id 1Oz8Rr-00043u-FS = for > highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:36:= 23 > -0700 > Received: from mail51-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.249) by > TX2EHSOBE010.bigfish.com (10.9.40.30) with Microsoft SMTP Server id= > 8.1.340.0; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:36:22 +0000 > Received: from mail51-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by > mail51-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85A13D03B5 fo= r > <highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 > 13:36:21 +0000 > (UTC) > X-SpamScore: -76 > X-BigFish: > VS-76(zzbb2cK936eK1936M98dN8f9KJ9b49M9371Pf4eM2bm581bkzz1202hzz8275bh82= 75dh8275chz32i54h54h2a8h2a8h61h) > Received: from mail51-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail51= -tx2 > (MessageSwitch) id 1285335379651522_30037; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:3= 6:19 > +0000 > (UTC) > Received: from TX2EHSMHS033.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.249]) by > mail51-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9510D0052 for > <highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 > 13:36:19 +0000 > (UTC) > Received: from JSIBUREXCH1.jsi.jc.com (207.250.41.10) by > TX2EHSMHS033.bigfish.com (10.9.99.133) with Microsoft SMTP Server > (TLS) id > 14.0.482.44; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:36:16 +0000 > Received: from JSIBUREXCH1.jsi.jc.com ([10.129.8.206]) by > JSIBUREXCH1.jsi.jc.com ([10.129.8.206]) with mapi; Fri, 24 Sep 2= 010 > 08:36:14 > -0500 > To: "'highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org'" > <highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org> > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:36:13 -0500 > Thread-Topic: re: Unsubscribe Now > Thread-Index: Actb6trEGrUZnItZR9Sl36TIb6tn0AAAnMVQ > Message-ID: < > 4EAA1F65D4BF9643B29D49BA91D1B8B7061EADDD5E-f1fvaT6zodUQnyS5CCKUSE6mMMnipbAr at public.gmane.org> > References: < > 690513948.2073089.1285279441770.JavaMail.root-KX4rQBZWipms1RcX6exeh1Wh7bxQi8rY930Pai70D+E at public.gmane.org= il.comcast.net > =20 >> =20 > <313936AA-24DE-47BB-B37D-66FB9469D7A6-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> > < > E5905D514B58C64CA7DCB67880179AA303BD67A1-UVm4moXmuN36JBhQPshQ78yQ5I+1RJ7B9/hku2waqpg at public.gmane.org= rg> > <AAA8BFC8-118B-4242-8775-294B870F9578-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ at public.gmane.org> > In-Reply-To: <AAA8BFC8-118B-4242-8775-294B870F9578-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ at public.gmane.org> > Accept-Language: en-US > Content-Language: en-US > X-MS-Has-Attach: yes > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > acceptlanguage: en-US > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Reverse-DNS: pc10.bbcmkids.org > X-Pass-two: yes > From: <highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org> > Subject: Re: re: Unsubscribe Now > X-BeenThere: highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: re: Unsubscribe Now > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12.cp3 > Precedence: list > List-Id: <highereducation_centerforgastricbypass.com.admin.com> > List-Unsubscribe: < > http://centerforgastricbypass.com/mailman/options/highereducation_cente= rforgastricbypass.com > =20 >> , >> =20 > <mailto:highereducation-request-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > ?subject=3Dunsubscribe> > List-Archive: < > http://centerforgastricbypass.com/pipermail/highereducation_centerforga= stricbypass.com > =20 >> =20 > List-Post: <mailto:highereducation-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org> > List-Help: <mailto:highereducation-request-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > ?subject=3Dhelp> > List-Subscribe: < > http://centerforgastricbypass.com/mailman/listinfo/highereducation_cent= erforgastricbypass.com > =20 >> , >> =20 > <mailto:highereducation-request-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > ?subject=3Dsubscribe> > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D0532483588=3D=3D" > Sender: <highereducation-bounces-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org> > Errors-To: highereducation-bounces-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it wi= th > any abuse report > X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phi.elinuxservers.com > X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - MYCOMPANY.com > X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] > X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - centerforgastricbypass.com > X-Source: > X-Source-Args: > X-Source-Dir: > X-Barracuda-Connect: smtpserver.MYCOMPANY.com[10.0.0.0] > X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1285335409 > X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.6.10.2:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi > X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at MYCOMPANY.com > X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.4922 1.0000 0.0000 > X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 > X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=3D0.00 using global scores of TAG_LE= VEL=3D3.5 > QUARANTINE_LEVEL=3D1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=3D4.5 tests=3DHTML_MESSAGE, MIME_H= TML_MOSTLY, > NO_REAL_NAME > X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.41758 > Rule breakdown below > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > 0.00 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name > 0.00 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY BODY: Multipart message mostly text/htm= l > MIME > 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message > Return-Path: highereducation-bounces-+W/nxiUF/q+PG+0iJ8KoT7wmdA9tuvIw0E9HWUfgJXw at public.gmane.org > ****HEADER END**** > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > =20 --=20 Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org> Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846
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