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The U.S. Federal Governments potential use of Einstein 3 which includes deep packet inspection, would certainly qualify as a example. http://epic.org/privacy/dpi/ Regards Paul Piva ________________________________ From: Paul Courchene <vze76wjy-ubggFOsnOr3gwBMGfI3FeA at public.gmane.org> To: discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 1:15:22 PM Subject: Re: Your View on DPI Hi, While I share the general view that Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) is unfair in some regards, it may have legitimate use in Traffic Management, Routing etc. I can't help but believe that Big Brother (National Security Agency) has a lot of people dedicated to DPI, like it or not ... -paulc Quoting Derek Martin <invalid-yPs96gJSFQo51KKgMmcfiw at public.gmane.org>: > First off, for those of us not in the know, what's DPI? The > only meaning of that acronym I know is dots per inch. A quick google > search doesn't turn up anything obviously relevant. > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Tom Martinson wrote: > > 1. As a user, I find them reprehensible. In no way should anyone be > > able to see my data traffic, > > That's just crazy. Unless you're using encryption to prevent it. > Your analogy with the post office is a bad one... unless you want to > extend it a bit. Data that's not encrypted is like sending a post > card. Encryption is the equivalent of an envelope. You don't have to > agree, but in practical terms, that's just the way it is. > > > and decide for me that my Hulu download should have a lower priority > > than my email traffic, or vice versa. > > While I agree in principle, that also is kind of crazy. QoS and other > schemes for throttling bandwidth are essential mechanisms for ensuring > that end users get a reasonable internet experience. Streaming video > packets, in general, SHOULD have a higher priority than e-mail > traffic, so that you don't experience skips and such just because your > e-mail client is downloading an e-mail with a huge attachment while > you're watching, etc. > > > Also it is not right for someone to have the ability and the need to > > "inspect" my packets and do with them as they wish, (I think that > > everyone remembers all those ACK resets to fight P2P traffic). > > I agree to an extent... That is, I agree literally with your > statement. But, they should be able to inspect your packets, because > the packets are going over their hardware to get to you... and they > should be able to make decisions about how to forward those packets > based on the contents, so long as it is for the benefit of their > customers. > > My understanding is that the post office can and does inspect and even > x-ray packages it deems suspicious, or otherwise appropriate to > inspect. > > > DPI was also used by NebUadd to identify advertisements and then > > substitute in what they want to put in. This screams in the face of > > privacy issues. > > If this is true, it does seem pretty unacceptable. But not for > privacy reasons... there's no personally identifying information in > an ad (at least, not normally). It's more unacceptable because > someone paid for that traffic to get to the recipient, and the > recipient may even have specifically wanted it (though, if it really > was an ad, that seems unlikely). > > -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 > -=-=-=-=- > This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will > result in > undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. > -- paulc _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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