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Jarod Wilson <jarod-ajLrJawYSntWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org> > I'm not quite clear, who is the "their" and the "yours" in the above? Our esteemed president yesterday took the bait from his critics and posted specific info against the advice of his advisors. I don't need advisors to know that it's a bad idea to name names when prodded by my own critics to point out vendors whose products I don't currently buy. Someday, those vendors' products and strategy might change, and/or they might become my employer, customer or strategic partner. The Web has a long memory -- the BLU archives go back decades, and I hope they continue for decades in the future. ;-) > I'm a wee bit > server-centric these days, I don't care for Linux on the desktop > very much anymore). You're missing out, man! I tried Linux on the desktop circa '93-'94, gave up on it in those very early days, and then tip-toed back into it with Kubuntu in '09. While Microsoft and Google (OK I'll name a couple vendors here ;-) are swimming strongly away from the desktop in favor of putting most new UI features into the browser back-end, Linux desktop apps are leaping forward. It's quite possible that in the next couple of years the Linux desktop will indeed leapfrog Apple and Android as a UI, especially for the multi-window/multi-monitor big-screen experience. Now that I'm doing some pretty heavy software dev along with sysadmin work, having lots of desktop real estate with zippy screen performance is crucial--and I don't see that happening on the 4" screen of my cell-phone any time soon. What kind of Linux-native tools am I talking about? Things like MySQL Workbench (try it if you're a DB person, sure beats phpMyAdmin!), poedit (utf-8 internationalization drove me nuts until I got this up and running), VirtualBox (latest version is truly slick). Even Picasa and OpenOffice have gotten good enough to use for lightweight stuff (I still keep Win7 Ultimate tucked into an on-screen VM, can't quite wean myself off the true-blue Office). The printer manufacturers do a very decent job of Linux support these days; the two areas where I've found Linux desktop continuing to frustrate are the basic setups for sound and graphics. But once you finally resolve those things, the desktop is much more wonderful than the Windows-based systems I used between '94 and '08. Returning to the topic of this thread: the *4th* generation Core (I've corrected myself and been corrected by others on the Intel confusion, which really drives the point home!) chips are the platform for truly driving Linux onto the desktop. Yeah, I hear the arguments that a "real gamer" would only use non-Intel graphics. But pushing Linux out to the masses is an economics game of the most basic traditional type that we all learned in 9th grade: the lowest-cost provider wins out, eventually. Software costs have to be measure not only in money but in time (especially the newbie learning curve, but also developer effort and such). Linux is gradually turning the tide. Hopefully AMD gets back into the game so the Core story isn't the last chapter of the hardware book. My $.02. -rich
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