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I'd like to give a quick background- makes it easier to understand. Cable TV started in Denver a long time ago. Think of the cable as you would think of "off air" signals, except the cable signal is "contained" within the (then completely coax ) wire. Anywhere the wire can go, the signal can go. And it can be made to be "uniformly strong" (like, you're equally near the antenna, for the off-air analogy). The cable systems bypassed many FCC regulations, as their signals were "contained" in private enclosed spaces. The wire has 3 components. The core. Solid condictor. Signal rides here. The insulator. A plastic like material. The outer layer (think tinfoil or screen), which "keeps the signal in, and keeps the noise OUT". Ok, so what was the initial design? TV. Broadcast. One to many. This is referred to as "THE FORWARD". The signal LEAVING the headend. It didn't take long for businessmen to understand that this same wire that carried the FORWARD, could also carry the RETURN (from the consumer TO the headend). R = RETURN = REVENUE. But, there was a problem. A big problem. Since it wasn't in the original design, the RETURN would need to be placed in electromagnetic real estate that wasn't already claimed by the FORWARD. This meant below about 52MHz, right below the carrier for analog Channel 2. So, frequencies allocated for the return were scarce and weak. Prone to interference and "ingress". Signals which creep back into the system, especially where junctions ("tap plates") where inadvertantly corroded or otherwise grounded. Your cable modem "receives" the forward signal usually at abundant and fast electromagnetic real estate (see 192.168.100.1 for your signal type), but replies at much mode dear, crowded and noisy places. It matters less the modulation type (digital or analog), and much more the electromagnetic real estate available for the RETURN. The RETURN must be shared by all "two way" services, telphony, impulse pay per view, video on demand, monitoring, and each channel (think "ethernet") which is on every "branch" (fiber node) from the headend. Each branch must aggregate the RETURN traffic from that neighborhood. Fiber transmissions are pristine from the headend to the place it is "stepped down" (converted) into RF signals over coax. the best (remaining) elsectromagnetic real estate was used for data- from about 20-40 (?) MHz. 5-10MHz was used for monitoring. Poor real estate. This is where all the discussion about LEVELS comes into play. You need to have enough SIGNAL so that it rides above the noise and does the job. SIGNAL strength, think "volume" in a conversation, must ride above the background chatter. Splitting cables causes signal loss. Usually not a huge deal. Amplification can overcome signal loss, but remember, you're amplifying signal and noise. Crappy real estate is still crappy real estate, amplified or not. All this ancient history is understood well by the DATA techs. they understand the RETURN. Regular cable monkeys mostly look at the FORWARD. Poorly maintained systems will allow signal (HAM radio) to creep back in, at spots where junctions are bad. This will (momentarily, while mike button is down) knock out the return signal right at around 25MHz. The "ethernet" in your neighborhood is probably shared by dozens, if not hundreds of other households. Luckily for the cable operators, not all users are online at once. The switch from (off-air) analog to digital transmission was primarily to recover the very valuable elecromagnetic real estate for more important and lucrative services. "Auctioned off" to high bidders, making revenue for the government. Thanks, Jim Gasek --- cra at WPI.EDU wrote: From: Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU> To: discuss at blu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] Extra splitter (OT) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:42:11 -0400 On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 05:53:30PM -0400, edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: > The recent thread regarding RCN, reminded me of the AT&T BB installation > 10 years ago. They installed an additional splitter (two-way) with one > cable going into the cable modem and the other cable going into another > splitter (three-way) going to the TV's. At the time of the > installation, they also installed a filter on the other cable going from > the two-way to the other splitter, but eventually Comcast removed it as > it was no longer required. > > With the technological advances made since then, is this extra two-way > splitter still required today, or could everything now go into one > splitter? You can use a three-way splitter. Those are usually marked with a "high" output with lower dB loss--connect that one to the cable modem. For each two-way splitter, you lose a bit more than half the signal (3.5 dB up to 1 GHz for good splitters, worse for cheap ones). Any bigger splitters are internally just networks of two-way splitters, and the same thing holds true. E.g. a three-way splitter looks like this inside: __-3.5dB__Out In--| __-7dB__Out ~~-3.5dB~~~~|__-7dB__Out So the first output's power is less than half the input power, and the other two are less than 1/4 the input power. Just make sure you get a "good" splitter, 5 MHz - 1 GHz, 3.5 dB, $1-$3. You don't need to spend extra for the "Monster" one though. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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