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[Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Richard Pieri <richard.pieri at> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:11 PM, markw at wrote:
>> Using a block level store, an incremental backup is no different than a full backup.
> You're not following me. ?You have a full dump. ?You have a first differential against that dump. ?You have a second differential made against the first differential. ?If you lose the first differential then you are screwed.

I've been watching the (second?) incarnation of this thread for a
while now and I think that I see your point.  I wonder if the "TRIM"
functionality that is being added to filesystems in order to handle
SSDs could help with this.  Filesystems with high churn rates are
likely to see lots of data blocks (but probably not meta-data blocks)
get TRIMmed.  If snapshots kept track of this in some fashion it might
become cheap enough to just do differentials against the original full
dump rather then against earlier differentials.   This would seem to
substantially reduce your concerns about data loss.

This wouldn't help with single file restore although file level backup
systems that do incremental backups can require you to go through a
pile of tapes unless they keep a database of filenames/versions/tapes.

Does anybody know if LVM pays attention to TRIMs at all?  At this
point, this is idle speculation on my part.  I haven't researched or
thought it through.

Bill Bogstad

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