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[Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

A suggestion that we test it ourselves to see how it behaves, instead of trying to choose which of many conflicting sources to arbitrarily believe without question, is not the same as "buying into the hype". 

I remember issues arising years ago when LILO was replaced with grub, and I believe we had a couple attendees at an Installfest whose machines we couldn't get working because we had no prior experience with grub at the time. Had some of us done a grub- based install prior to the Installfest, I'm confident that failure would not have occurred. 

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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 06:42:32 -0500
> John Abreau <abreauj at> wrote:
>> I'm not really clear on the point you're trying to make in the
>> context of this thread. Jerry is basically saying we need to be
> The point is that most of the bad things you've heard about UEFI Secure
> boot are wrong. They're lies and FUD. Sometimes it's just lies.
> Sometimes it's incompetent users spouting nonsense and others repeating
> it as gospel. I am trying to get you people to learn about UEFI Secure
> Boot: what it is, what it does, and HOW THE HELL IT WORKS instead of
> buying into the hype about how evil it is.
> -- 
> Rich P.
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