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On 04/23/2013 12:36 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On 4/22/2013 11:48 PM, Rich Braun wrote: >> Never would've thought I'd be saying this. Five years ago I assumed that as a >> developer you'd want to put the whole cloud onto your personal MacBook or >> Fedora/Ubuntu laptop. But even DevOps guys don't want to be sysadmins of >> their own hyper-complicated toolchain. > The problem here is that your tool chain is a steaming pile of crap. > Moving from a decentralized pile of crap to a centralized pile of crap > won't make it any less of a pile of crap. All it does is dump all of > your piles of crap on top of some expensive infrastructure. > > Fixing piles of crap like that isn't a job for a sysadmin or a > programmer. It's a job for a release manager. Someone given the budget > of time and personnel and equipment to clean up the crap. Someone given > the authority to make programmers use the new system whether they like > it or not. > > I would suggest that if you can't get that authority in writing then get > out now. All it will take is one developer with more clout than you have > to say "no" to leave you responsible for a very expensive failure. > 2 years ago we set up our local build environment around git. But, we use SVN for a code repository for 2 of our products because (1) we are not allowed to use git and (2) the software is written by a third party in the Netherlands who uses SVN. So, we still use git on our local repositories, but for the 2 java systems we use svn. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf at blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90
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