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[Discuss] Remote builds (Re: SVN server - What hardware do I need?)

On 04/23/2013 12:36 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> On 4/22/2013 11:48 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
>> Never would've thought I'd be saying this.  Five years ago I assumed that as a
>> developer you'd want to put the whole cloud onto your personal MacBook or
>> Fedora/Ubuntu laptop.  But even DevOps guys don't want to be sysadmins of
>> their own hyper-complicated toolchain.
> The problem here is that your tool chain is a steaming pile of crap.
> Moving from a decentralized pile of crap to a centralized pile of crap
> won't make it any less of a pile of crap. All it does is dump all of
> your piles of crap on top of some expensive infrastructure.
> Fixing piles of crap like that isn't a job for a sysadmin or a
> programmer. It's a job for a release manager. Someone given the budget
> of time and personnel and equipment to clean up the crap. Someone given
> the authority to make programmers use the new system whether they like
> it or not.
> I would suggest that if you can't get that authority in writing then get
> out now. All it will take is one developer with more clout than you have
> to say "no" to leave you responsible for a very expensive failure.
2 years ago we set up our local build environment around git. But, we 
use SVN for a code repository for 2 of our products because (1) we are 
not allowed to use git and (2) the software is written by a third party 
in the Netherlands who uses SVN.

So, we still use git on our local repositories, but for the 2 java 
systems we use svn.

Jerry Feldman <gaf at>
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