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On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Tom Metro <tmetro+blu at gmail.com> wrote: > Greg Rundlett wrote: > > I for one will...incorporate out of state. > > Aside from having to pay corporate excise tax to another state, what are > you hoping that to accomplish? > > The service tax is imposed on customers who reside in MA, so if you want > to avoid the tax, you don't relocate your business (or its > incorporation), but instead cease doing business with customers in MA. > disclaimers: IANAL; I've only given the legislation a quick review; and I haven't had a chance to review much of the press/commentary taking place off-list. I am still trying to figure out how this legislation will be applied and what effect it will have. If ACMEsoft, a MA technology consulting company, develops websites for it's customers, and hosts those websites on ACMEsoft servers (through a hosting service provider in NJ) and some of the design work was done by a RISD graduate in Providence, while the project management was done online through basecamp, accounting work was done online through paymo and code was written at individual employee's homes and loaded onto an online github account while communication was handled (online) by Google Mail and Apps, where does the sale take place? What if some of the work was performed offshore? I know, if the customer is located in MA, then the website development consulting sale is considered to be a MA sale. What if the customer has offices in other states, but the contract is handled locally? What constitutes an office? If ACMEwidgets, a customer of ACMEsoft, has a sales office in CA, but the president lives here in MA, and the company production facilities are always changing, does that mean that ACMEwidgets should draw up a contract for their website using their CA address? How about training? I assume ACMEsoft would have to poll their customer ACMEwidgets to ask not only who will be joining the conference call, but also where they are calling from - for tax purposes?! If the sales and marketing staff (in CA) call for support, then it's tax-free, but if the company president has a support question then it's taxable? Or does ACMEsoft write a support contract (tax-free) and invoice it to the ACMEwidgets CA office (in advance)? What about future maintenance? Does the maintenance task become exempt if I use out of state hosting services? The legislation talks about MPU (multiple points of use) which exempts customers from the tax when the "software" is used outside Massachusetts. Does that mean that I should put an out-of-state CDN or proxy in front of my website so that I can show that 100% of the use is outside the jurisdiction? Who exactly is using the software anyway? Is it the site visitors, or the company employees? Although the sales and use tax is levied at customers and depends on their locus, I think that the complexity of the problem alone (never mind the added financial incentive) would make a potential customer shop out-of-state vendors. So, even though I should theoretically maintain a local presence to attract local customers, I'm thinking that being a NH consultant or a RI consultant just got more attractive from a competitive view. I live in Salisbury, MA where just over the border in Seabrook, NH there is a huge amount of trade in cigarettes, alcohol (state-run outlets on both sides of route 95 with their own exit ramps), tires, home building products and durable goods. Somehow I don't think technology consulting will be much different -- I think a sizeable amount of the revenue that currently goes to MA businesses will shift to out-of-state providers. I'm thinking it's a good idea to be one of those providers. What do others think? ~ Greg Rundlett eQuality-Tech.com
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