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- Subject: [Discuss] Higher-end keyboards to try?
- From: tmetro+blu at gmail.com (Tom Metro)
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:53:40 -0500
- In-reply-to: <20150114222024.GZ30237@randomstring.org>
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Dan Ritter wrote: > Daniel Barrett wrote: >> I'm interested in getting a better keyboard, like a Cherry MX type, >> but would like to try out a few first to compare them. >> >> I tried a friend's Cherry MX Blue at work at it was quite awesome, >> though loud. > > MicroCenter probably has several different kinds, and are > usually amenable to opening up boxes. Last time I was at Micro Center they had a demo keyboard mounted to the shelf in the keyboard isle that featured a variety of Cherry MX switch types. It probably isn't ideal, as there was only a subset of keys that used each type, so you couldn't really get the feel of what it would be like to type on a whole keyboard using that switch type. Then again, you never really get a feel for a keyboard until you've used it for a week or so. Wikipedia has a decent description of the different switch types: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_Electronics#Cherry_switches http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OfUAQiIOWQ > Personally, I think the Enduras from pckeyboard.com, with proper > buckling springs, beat everything else hollow. The buckling springs are stuffer and noisier than the MX blues. I have an old machine that still has a "tenkeyless" Model M on it that I use rarely. After years of typing on much lighter action keyboards with much shorter travel, it doesn't take long for the model M to make my hands sore. Derek Martin wrote: > I suspect you want a brown, which has about the same tension in the > key switch as a blue but without the click. I've read likewise - same tactile sensation as blues, but without the noise. However when I tried them, I got hardly any tactile sensation from the browns. Not only do you hear the blues, but they have a crisp trigger point you distinctly feel. The down side is that anyone else in the room or on the phone can hear them too. > ...went to Microcenter since I figured they would have the biggest > selection of keyboards in the store... I was looking for a "tenkeyless" design (also known as 80%, relative to the size of a 104-key keyboard; the number pad is wasted space for my uses) and I think at the time they had maybe only one choice. I'm also considering 70% designs, which tucks the arrow, Pg Up, Pg Down, Home, End, Ins, and Del keys into into the main layout. Some designs do this more effectively than others. (There are also 60% designs, but they compromise too much for the sake of space savings in my opinion. At least if you are using them for coding.) > ...if you'd be interested in something with a slightly smaller form > factor, I'd also suggest the CM Storm Quickfire TK... That's one of the ones I've been considering. (It's an 80% design.) Among the cheapest at under $70: http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13445 But no backlighting. Corsair Gaming K65 RGB is pretty nice. Many keyboards in this market have aluminum backing plates under the switches for stiffness. This one has an aluminum bezel as well, which allows them to make the sides of he keyboard almost flush with the keys, making it among the narrowest of the 80% designs. But at $150 you're paying a premium for the fancy lighting effects (full RGB LEDs with a variety of programmable lighting patterns), and the lack of competition during the period in which it is available exclusively at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-gaming-k65-rgb-mechanical-keyboard/7547002.p?id=1219279718644&skuId=7547002&st=categoryid$abcat0513000&cp=1&lp=8# Some example 70% mechanical boards (mostly) with backlighting and MX blue switches: Keycool 84 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A7NFPF0?psc=1 Vortex KBT RACE TKL Mechanical Keyboard http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13523 Deck 82 TKL Mechanical Keyboard http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13456 Matias Mini Quiet Pro for PC TKL Mechanical http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13874 (You can find reviews of some of these on YouTube.) Some example 80% mechanical boards (mostly) with backlighting and MX blue switches: Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition 2014 (no backlighting, and I believe it uses a knock-off MX switch, as is becoming increasingly common) http://www.microcenter.com/product/430345/Blackwidow_Tournament_Edition_2014_Mechanical_Gaming_Keyboard There are like a dozen Ducky models that fit the general description, some lacking backlighting http://www.ncix.com/detail/ducky-dk2087-zero-brown-switch-81-90669.htm http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=9667 http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=664 http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13404 http://www.amazon.com/Ducky-Zero-Shine-Switch-Keyboard/dp/B00HZTRMIM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top Vortex KBT ONI TKL Mechanical http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13496 KUL ES-87 Tenkeyless Mechanical Keyboard (Cherry MX Brown) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KI1ZAHY?psc=1 Nixeus MODA Mechanical Keyboard - Brown Switch http://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-MODA-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tactile/dp/B00L1TLINC/ The CODE keyboards stand apart from the others in that they are aimed at coders, rather than gamers. It has a DIP switch to switch it to Dvorak, or Colemak(?). Another switch to swap Ctrl and Caps Lock. No need to mess with keyboard settings in X. Available in both 80% and full size versions. But it only comes in MX Green and Clear. (Green is like blue, but requires more force. Supposedly the closest analog to buckling springs. Clear are even more rare and work like brown, but similarly require more force.) http://codekeyboards.com/ There are also some high-end competitors to Cherry key switches, but they're less common. (I haven't bothered to bookmark any.) And if you really want to get fanatical about your keyboard, the next spec to obsess over is what kind of plastic the keycaps are made from. Most are ABS, but some say PBT is better. I'll be happy enough if the lettering doesn't wear off. After that you can then consider modding options, such as custom colored key caps, or putting O-rings on the stems to quiet and shorten the key travel. It seems a whole industry has developed around providing mechanical keyboards and accessories mostly for gamers. (If you plan to go this route, watch out for keyboards that use MX knock-offs, as the after-market caps may not be compatible.) -Tom -- Tom Metro The Perl Shop, Newton, MA, USA "Predictable On-demand Perl Consulting." http://www.theperlshop.com/
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