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- From: mbr at arlsoft.com (MBR)
- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:06:21 -0500
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If you're going to tell us all about how the originating company is stiffing you, at least tell us the company's name so we can steer clear of them. Mark Rosenthal On 2/20/15 10:23 PM, Peter Olson wrote: > I've been mugged three times, but not recently. > > The first time was in Cambridge, about 40 years ago. I was walking along a > street and a bunch of kids intersected my path, hit me with something, stomped > my eyeglasses, and took my wallet. I got stitches to fix a scalp wound but the > worst hassle was calling my credit card company and dealing with my lost social > security card, etc. And getting new glasses. > > The second time was maybe 35 years ago. I was returning from a dinner party and > got off the subway in downtown Boston walking about three blocks home and two > guys stepped out on front of me, one had a knife. I opened my wallet and gave > them the money. They wanted me to go back into an underground subway entrance, > but I stepped around it into the road and walked quickly back to my apartment > one block away. > > The third time was about twenty years ago. I got off the subway in Central > Square, Cambridge, and was going to the bus stop when four kids started > harassing me. The object of their affection was apparently my cell phone, which > was attached to my belt. I believe they thought it was a Sidekick ( > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1630991,00.asp ). They continued to harass > me verbally at the bus stop. One of them played the good guy (I think he was > the oldest) and I had a limited conversation with him. One of the younger ones > asked to borrow my phone so he could call his mother. I declined. Later he > boasted that he could mess me up. I didn't take that seriously, so I stared him > down. > > After we all got on the bus, everyone sat down. When we got to a popular mall, > the kids left, and the youngest one tried to steal my phone. Let me tell you > about cell phone belt holsters. When I first got the phone, I had several near > misses where the holster detached from my belt while I was walking around. So I > engineered a more secure attachment with tie wraps. > > The kid tried to grab my phone, but it didn't come off my belt :-) > > He left, but the other guy was pissed at me and slapped my eyeglasses off my > head. I asked fellow passengers to help me find my glasses, and they got them > back for me. I then walked to the front of the bus and pointed out the kids (by > then on the other side of the road) and told him they tried to steal my phone. > > In the days following, I wondered what my strategy would be in this situation. > I didn't think of any of these ideas at the time, but now I am prepared. > > At the bus stop there was a police station two blocks away. (It's a community > center these days.) > > This was before ubiquitous cell phone usage, but I have heard since that I could > loudly ask for someone else at the bus stop to call the police. There were > plenty of people there who didn't intervene. > > The worst thing I could do would be to get off at my normal stop and walk home. > But I didn't have to do that, since the kids left at the mall. > > I could have gotten off the bus at a stop with a restaurant very close to the > stop, where I could find refuge. Then call a cab, in case the kids were > lurking. > > I could have gone to the end of the line, where the kids would have to leave the > bus but I wouldn't, because I would explain the problem to the bus driver. If > he was still alive ;-) j/k > > The fourth time was last December. Oh, wait, there was a fourth time? > > I don't know yet, but it involves THE INTERNET. > > I ordered an inexpensive 3D plastic filament printer kit, which would take about > 4 or 5 weeks to deliver but which would arrive around year end. I was out of > town for a week and asked the USPS to hold my mail so the delivery wouldn't sit > on my front steps for days. > > When the hold released, I got a sizable box with a note in felt tip (from the > post office) saying "received without contents" and a form letter apologizing > for whatever happened to it. Yes, the box was empty (except for a single sheet > of blank paper). > > The shipment was insured, so a few days elapsed and I was able to get to the > post office to ask about this and they said that is the responsibility of the > shipper to file a claim. The originating company has a ticket system. O > frabjous joy! > > I filed a ticket, and four or five days later, they closed it to "clear the > database". > > I replied to the ticket which reopened it automatically, and nothing happened. > I poked the ticket and got a reply that the ticket master was working on the > weekend and would have to talk to "Nick" next week. Nothing happened. I have > now asked twice for a refund. I won't bore you with the exact chronology, but > repeated complaints including one citing the lack of substantive response in 28 > days has resulting in having the ticket closed again in order to "clear the > database". > > My latest communication points out to the ticket master that the resolving event > for closing the ticket is the issuance of the refund, not "clearing the > database". > > There has been no reply. > > This has certainly been the most time-enhanced mugging I have ever endured :-) > > Next step I suppose is communicating with the credit card company. Ironically, > the electronic evidence from the trouble ticket is useful. I have saved it on > my own computer in case it magically disappears. The Better Business Bureau > might be interested, and maybe the FTC, since the ticketing system might be a > way to avoid regulations about timely response to complaints involving money. > Maybe even the USPS, for wire fraud? > > I suspect that most victims have better uses of their time than to retaliate > against a $400 loss. > > It's all in the numbers. > > Peter Olson > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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