[Discuss] live streaming needs flash?

[mark at buttery.org (Shirley Márquez Dúlcey)]

Receiving streams without plugins is now common. Chrome has had it for
a while and other browsers got the capability more recently. YouTube
uses HTML5 streaming if the browser supports it.

SENDING a stream is another matter. The state of support of the camera
API is still poor; every browser but Edge that have support require
the use of nonstandard API prefixes (which are different for WebKit
based browsers and Firefox). That will likely change by the end of the
year (it's hard to imagine Google and Mozilla tolerating a situation
where MICROSOFT has the best support of an HTML standard), so we
should see some viable HTML5-based live streaming solutions in the
future.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:35 PM, David Rosenstrauch <darose at darose.net> wrote:
> Netflix now can do streaming on Linux without Flash.  (Though it doesn't
> look like all streaming services work this way currently.)
>
> It looks like Netflix uses the NSS (Network Security Services) libraries to
> do this.  (See
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2824623/ubuntu-linux-gets-netflix-without-weird-workarounds.html
> for more details)  I can confirm firsthand that this works on my distro
> (Arch).  But it only works in Google Chrome, not the fully open source
> Chromium.
>
> HTH,
>
> DR
>
> On 07/27/2015 07:23 PM, Shirley M?rquez D?lcey wrote:
>>
>> Although there has been a camera API in HTML5 since at least 2012,
>> browser support has lagged; even now, developers can't count on it
>> being available, and what support does exist is inconsistent. Flash is
>> the most widely installed plugin so that is what developers used. It
>> can also be done with Java or Silverlight but fewer users have those.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Eric Chadbourne
>> <eric.chadbourne at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've heard some smart folks say flash is needed for live streaming and
>>> nothing else is nearly as good.  I've heard them say there is no good open
>>> source option.  If this is true, why?  Surely there's no magic sauce in
>>> there that couldn't be replicated, or even done better.  Is it more of a
>>> matter of plugin saturation?  Just curious.
>>>
>>> Eric Chadbourne
>>> - The one who uses no flash or java plugins, ever.
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