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[Discuss] Dropping obsolete commands (Linux Pocket Guide)
- Subject: [Discuss] Dropping obsolete commands (Linux Pocket Guide)
- From: effigies at riseup.net (Chris Markiewicz)
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:09:06 -0500
- In-reply-to: <22081.7166.990325.999432@snorkack.blazemonger.com>
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On 11/09/2015 05:19 PM, Daniel Barrett wrote: > > While writing the third edition of my book, "Linux Pocket Guide" > (O'Reilly), which focuses on Linux commands that are the most useful > to know, I am considering dropping some topics that were in the > previous edition. I welcome any opinions on whether the following > commands are still widely useful enough to keep in the book. > > 1. dump and restore > > I grew up with these commands, but personally haven't used them in > well over a decade. What do you think? Been using Linux for over a decade, and never even run across these (and they're not installed by default on Debian or Ubuntu). Looking them up, it seems like what I'd use rsync/rsnapshot for. Do you include those? > 2. finger and chfn > > Likewise. Does anybody make use of finger information anymore, whether > on a single host or multiple? No. > 3. telnet > > I'm planning to mention telnet only for its utility in hitting > arbitrary ports (telnet myhost 80), and to drop all discussion of > remote logins with telnet, since it's largely been replaced by > ssh. (And maybe have a footnote about kerberized telnet being OK for > logins.) Agree/disagree? Agree. I might mention that it was historically used for remote login and been obsoleted, but that's about it. > 4. dnsdomainname, nisdomainname, ypdomainname > > These are just links to /bin/hostname for convenience and I never run > them. Do you? No. > 5. write and talk > > More commands I grew up with, but I suspect these have been completely > obsoleted by instant messaging. (Though I always liked "banner wake up > | write joe". :-)) Any reason to keep them? > > 6. Usenet > > The 2nd edition still covered slrn, but personally haven't run a > newsreader in years. For 5 and 6, I'd be slightly inclined to keep them, despite obsolescence because they're still about things to explore/have some fun with. (I guess this applies to finger as well, except there's no content, unlike Usenet, which has, if anything, too much.) Chris
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